12 July 2007

KingCast welcomes detractors like Foro to our vessel instead of eliminating their comments as does Union Leader, in the Franconia shooting tragedy.

I'll keep this short. Read both of the Popeye Doyle posts (one and two), and recognize that Foro, me, and others on this blawg have all gone at it, entirely cut throat over our divergent viewpoints regarding the facts of this case, even after I proved my point quoting verse, chapter and book from the unpublished government files that should be on line for free. They don't want them on line because so many more people will begin to question the case, and once the thread gets loose.... well it's like the bondo situation I described in Doyle #1.

Anyway, you will see that Foro and I agree on one thing:

That the government should be sued for unlawfully withholding documents, or for propagating lies.

So we are all part of the same vessel, one which at bottom has a good and pure spirit, as opposed to WMUR which hosts a forum where I know they pull posts and even allowed a hater cop to call me "disbarred" even after I wrote a comment to the contrary (suspended for one year in 2002) and I had to publicly issue a Cease and Desist letter to make them stop it, so they pull his post but never published mine because mine was scathing -- and deadly accurate.

Anyway, opposed to that and on to the First Amendment and Good Spirit thing:

If I wasn't ridiculously denied the right to attend Tamarack Tennis 2 years ago because of hater cops (see para. 2) we never have this discussion.

If McKay isn't a bully we never have this discussion.

If Liko doesn't shoot McKay we never have this discussion.

If Liko and his friend riding their dirt bikes had never met Fred Murray looking for his daughter out there on the Kenney property a time ago, we never have the next discussion.


Who is Noah?

Noah is all of us.

PS: These issues cut to the core of the fabric of our society: The Tamarack Tennis interruptus. Issues of police brutality. Mental/emotional health of ALL primary actors. Dereliction of duty from the AG and Franconia Selectmen. Missing women. First Amendment and Right-to-Know. Blogger/media rights. A documentary or dramatic film to be used as a tool of socio-political and legal change. And of course, the First Amendment. So many things that are so large that it boggles the mind. And for the AG and LE folks (of which I was one for 4 years, remember) and the media (of which I was one off and on for 20 years) to portray this as "Dirt Bag vs. Hero" is insulting to the intelligence of any and all sentient beings.

Namaste, Aloha, Peace.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Chris, et al ~

"If Liko and his friend riding their dirt bikes had never met Fred Murray looking for his daughter out there on the Kenney property a time ago, we never have the next discussion."

I had no idea that the life paths of Fred Murray and Liko had previously intersected....chilling. The light was beginning to shine, and now it shines brightly.

I'd read articles about Maura, and thought it very odd that this accomplished young woman disappeared without a trace; so glad she is often mentioned here, and hope there will a positive result.

The reference to Liko as Dirt Bag in the offical report, regardless of the intended context, speaks to the ignorance, bias and intent of authorities to continue to trample and smear the reputation of Liko in his death, as McKay did during his life.

A point to remember.....Liko, not unlike all of us, was a work in progress, especially in '03 at age 19. Science has recently determined that the development of the pre-frontal cortex is slow, especially in males....and the ability to express mature judgment is on a continuum until age 25. So, again, we have the 45 year old authority figure provoking young citizens at their most vulnerable age period.

Go figure.

TL

Anonymous said...

It's true, Fred Murray and Liko's paths did cross a couple years back while Liko and one of his friends were riding the Kenney property on their ATV's. Neither made the connection at the time, the man said he was looking for his daughter.

It was after Liko's death that in talking to this other young man, now 23, that we discovered this occurence.

I want to talk briefly about this other young man. He's quietly trying to step up and become an example for other young men and women in the community to follow. To do the right things, to not succumb to hatred, to take the high road, the same road Liko tried to take on 5/11. This has not been easy for him and his anger and pain still show. He wants desperately for change and sees an opportunity to make it happen just as we do. At 23, he does not understand the wheels of Justice grind slowly at times and is impatient. He knows he must keep his "eyes on the prize", but it's particularly tough for him and his peers.

Let me tell you why. He and his peers are viewed as "dirt bags" by those in charge. No they are not perfect, but I dare say neither were we at that age. The profiling of this age group is evidenced by the state's one-sided portrayal of Liko and of statements recently made of Serry Hayward.

Let me tell you about Serry. This group has had more than it's share of tragedy in recent years. Serry, another of their close friends lost his life about 2 years ago in an accident. This is now two awful deaths of close friends in 2 years. That is a great loss in a small community.

Here is what one LE poster said about Serry on this blog:

"If that is a sticker of Liko Kenney on that stop sign, Great!! Just what this community needs another never-do-well put up on a pedestal. I'm tired of the Serry stickers, and the where's Serry signs. Serry was nobody to look up to, he lived his life his way and died driving home stinking drunk. Kenney died from his own actions. This community needs a better list of heroes."

The entire post is here:

https://www.blogger.com/
comment.gblogID=13439084&
postID=6352116181903912927

Now I ask you, what sense of fair play or desire to work within the system can you have knowing this is the way you and your peers are viewed? This is yet another example of the sad state of affairs in Franconia, a tide of bigotry and hate we're trying to stem.

I ask each and every one of you who cares about this town and it's people to pray for these young men and women to stay strong and make the right choices. If you're not religious, use whatever spiritually motivates you so send good karma their way.

We're sitting on a volitile situation that is being primed by the AG and local LE. I know, I talk to these men and women frequently. Their stories, taken individually seem inconsequential, but when put together loom large. These young men and women do talk and share.

Folks, we're far from out of the woods just yet...as is Mr. Fred Murray, I saddened to say.

Christopher King said...

TL:

Yes, as I say the largeness of this thing amazes me daily. The dirt bag comment and the laughter from Kelly Ayotte's and Peter's Heed's maggot buddy Chief Dunn about me potentially getting gang-raped in prison are all branches of the same poisonous tree and that's a fact that major media does not want to expose.

Remember how quickly the whole story of that rat bastard cop Bobby Cutts who allegedly murdered his girlfriend in Ohio disappeared?

Almost as miraculously as Maura and the other girl, whose name escapes me, disappeared.

Yep.

But our movie and our spirit will never disappear.

Namaste.

PS: I used to notice that only missing black girls didn't get reported or followed in the media, but now I see that not to be the case. Somehow the LE and the media decide what the cause celebre will be and while it usually does exclude black or minority girls sometimes the veil of silence will cloak white girls too.

I may not have the answers as to why -- just as I will never know why Attorney Strelzin and company would ignore what appears to be a blood-stained knife from the brother of someone who thought his brother had something to do with Maura's disappearance..... (see BostonNOW story) but what I CAN do is ask the right questions and make a movie about it.

-c

Christopher King said...

Lifer:

Yes it is hard to be brave and to stand up against a beat down, especially when the media is bought and sold by the police.

-c

Foro Van Neinbaaster said...

Dear Chris,

please let me offer a heartfelt "thanks" for so generously inviting me to you grand vessel, and being able to see that I'm not entirely devoid of common sense. I will not fail the great confidence you invested in me, and will prove over and over again that Liko was not some kind of spiritual hero and/or tormented soul, but an irresponsible young man who thought that defending his non-extant right of driving an unregistered car was more important than a human life. I will also state vigorously that the police should be held accountable for wrongdoing, if there is any, and if a fact is established in a court of law, whereby an official was lying, that should be severely punished.

Now let me comment on the writings of my friend TL,

The reference to Liko as Dirt Bag in the offical report, regardless of the intended context, speaks to the ignorance, bias and intent of authorities to continue to trample and smear the reputation of Liko in his death

I'm sorry TL but this in itself is a very biased statement. There have been many unflattering comments on McKays personality on this board and maybe elsewhere, which continue to trample the officer's reputation even in his death. Liko fired that first shot while patently not in mortal danger, and in my personal little book, this goes on the "dirtbag" page.

A point to remember.....Liko, not unlike all of us, was a work in progress, especially in '03 at age 19. Science has recently determined that the development of the pre-frontal cortex is slow, especially in males....and the ability to express mature judgment is on a continuum until age 25.

You almost seem to be grasping straws in trying to justify the mental behavior of Liko on 5/11. We have plenty of youg men and women, aged under 25, in Iraq (unfortunately) who are fully expected to produce judgement on which a lot lives will depend -- day after day. They don't have the luxury that you afford to the rich kid Liko who apparently had a license to kill at will. As you know, a number of our military were tried and convicted of murders in Iraq that were not determined to be justified killings. Even though I might agree with you that in some cases, especially in Liko's, "the development of the pre-frontal cortex is slow", this is a piss poor defense of a cop killer or any murderer, for that matter. You know what? I think that Floyd had a cortex problem. Please let go of that nice gentleman. It just took him longer to develop that frontal thing, you know.

So, again, we have the 45 year old authority figure provoking young citizens at their most vulnerable age period.

Since when asking for a doddamn driver license is provocation? Give me a break. Also, if, according to you, Liko had a vulnerable brain of a 4-week old embryo, how the hell did buy a .45 gun?

Anonymous said...

At 24, I had a college degree and had traveled around the world. Age has nothing to do with his behavior. He was just immature and never had to take responsiblity for his actions.

Anonymous said...

we welcome another new day, foro, my friend...
i can't get the HTML thing going here, so bear with me...

i accept that mckay's reputation is being REVEALED, or trampled, by your perception, in places outside of the official state report, by necessity....given no mention is made of mckay's possible historical or procedural errors or unprofessional reputation or conduct in the official report. what's fair is fair.

our personal opinions regarding liko's being a "dirt bag" OR NOT also happen to exist outside of the official report. The official report, however, places emphasis on the "dirt bag" label by including it, and selectively EXCLUDING other witness reports that might have been more favorable to liko. unfair.

factually, science is studying behavior and the brain in a way that will provide much information in the immediate future. stay tuned.

hmmmm - "rich kid". that must touch on your bottom line. is that why you consistently view liko to be a "spoiled brat"? and now, a "dirt bag"?
you are sweeping with a broad brush, again....and, in this instance, perhaps justifying liko's known choice of vocation and value as a human being to be inferior to the young man or woman who is engaged in military service.
being asked for and not producing a driver's license isn't something i can defend....
but i return to mckay's selectively targeting, ramming and macing....that's provocative.

TL

Anonymous said...

cognitive and emotional maturity is on a continuum...

TL

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately it is lack of compassion that keeps those with mental illness from getting the proper treatment they need. It is so easy to look at things in black and white and forget the gray areas. I am not saying Liko was mentally ill, but having dealt with those who are certainly opened my eyes up to being tolerant for those who mature at different ages or those who have undiagnosed mental issues. Being a school yard bully does not do anything positive to help.

Anonymous said...

TK,

Couldn't agree with you more. Total difference. I doubt if it has been directly stated to LE it has ever been put into writing that McKay was a bully rogue cop that targeted people. If there was a record then it somehow counts but it has been neatly avoided.


our personal opinions regarding liko's being a "dirt bag" OR NOT also happen to exist outside of the official report. The official report, however, places emphasis on the "dirt bag" label by including it, and selectively EXCLUDING other witness reports that might have been more favorable to liko. unfair.


Now, this is actually funny because it is sooo not true. Rich brats drive used pinto's? The Kenney family is LAND wealthy and none of the kids were raised in a climate of "money" regardless of the amount of it they may have.


hmmmm - "rich kid". that must touch on your bottom line. is that why you consistently view liko to be a "spoiled brat"? and now, a "dirt bag"?
you are sweeping with a broad brush, again....and, in this instance, perhaps justifying liko's known choice of vocation and value as a human being to be inferior to the young man or woman who is engaged in military service.

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Anonymous said...

The great lady I mentioned the other day has been sending me some really great info lately. Here is another interesting find she passed on.


Woman jailed for 'neglected' lawn
Orem city, Utah
A 70-year-old US woman has been left bruised and bloody after an
unexpected clash with police who came to arrest her because her lawn
was dry and brown.

Trouble flared when Utah pensioner Betty Perry, 70, refused to give
her name to an officer trying to caution her for not watering her
lawn. She says the officer hit her with handcuffs, cutting her nose,
although police insist she slipped and fell.

Ms Perry said she was "distraught" after the incident. She denied
that she was resisting arrest, maintaining that she turned to go
inside to call her son to fix the confusing dispute. "I tried to sit
down and get away from him," she told Utah newspaper the Daily Herald.
"I don't know what he's doing. I said: 'What are you doing?' And he
hit me with those handcuffs in my face," she said.

"He's just trying to cover his tracks, as far as I'm concerned."

The officer had judged that Ms Perry's "sadly neglected and dying
landscape" breached an Orem city guideline and was attempting to issue
a formal caution when the 70-year-old was injured. She was treated in
a local hospital for the cut to her nose and for other bruises before
being taken to jail. But she was let go when police realized there
were "other ways" of finding out her identity without taking her to
jail, a police spokesman said. The arresting officer has not been
named but has been placed on administrative leave, he added.

Ms Perry, who says she has never had a run-in with police in the past,
has been offered help by local church leaders to clean up her garden.
"I'm very distraught over all this," she said. "I can't believe this
happened. Do you ever just wish you could start your day over and it
would all be different?"

Foro Van Neinbaaster said...

Dear TL@8:02 --

perhaps justifying liko's known choice of vocation and value as a human being to be inferior to the young man or woman who is engaged in military service

Oh no, that's not at all what I meant. I just tried to point out that the society expects 25 year olds to behave as responsible adults. I've seen young people displaying good judgement, concern for the wellbeing of others and bravery if need be. I cited the military as an example that the society, by and large, expects 25 year olds to be above the level of school kids. You know TL, that slow pre-frontal lobe theory of Liko behavior is pretty ludicrous -- according to you I could say that Columbine killers should be justified in their mass murder because, you know, that frontal thing was not fully developed; then again, they were probably bullied to a degree. What better excuse to don a trench coat and put a fresh clip in that Glock? You see, we are humans above all and there are such basic things as other human's life that should not (in a normal person) require complex analytical ability to discover and protect. If Liko was not sane and sound, say so. That would sure put a different twist on that story.

being asked for and not producing a driver's license isn't something i can defend....

Ah, OK. I agree with you.

but i return to mckay's selectively targeting, ramming and macing....that's provocative

I would say that "non producing the driver license" was indeed a provocation on Liko's part... Now, if it was I driving that Toyota and I drove away from a traffic stop... And let's say the cop wasn't McKay... Some other cop would probably try to stop me by the protocol which in some cases involve push the suspect's vehicle off the road. I saw the video a few times and it appeats that Liko decided to try and run again, when McKay's vehicle was approaching his in that yard, and that McKay pulled forward more aggressively and blocked the Toyota.

All of this could be avoided if Liko gracefully agreed to pay the goddamn ticket justl like the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

well boro von hopeless clings to the 'rich kid dirt bag' and extrapolates nonsense, after an amazing series of ugly and vicious name calling posts, highlighting little except his ignorance...
really genuinely cruel stuff, and repeatedly...teasing and taunting everyone with an unbelievable arrogance, and has been proven wrong again and again...

chris, he has his own blog, which nobody goes to, why not just leave the piece of shit there rather than promote his extrapolating ugliness here...

boro you are still dog vomit, dumbass reactionary...
your sense of logic and proportion and hatefulness adds darkness never light...

belch your faux logic, with or without chris' imprimateur...you have revealed yourself as quick to be a reactionary vicious fool, based on
media reports' and living several states away...you were so sure the trail head was a suspicous dangerous place etc...you are so out of touch it's ridiculous...

back to your own anemic blog with you...
anyone is free to make a comment here and you won't be censored...neither will you be seen by many as anything other than an impotent drooling idealogue...could not care less about your opinions or your relative anemic 'support' of obvious police misconduct and mckay's long record of abuse...you haven't done the research, you haven't done the work...you don't know the players, and you don't care about much other than coming in blazing your ignorance with huge shots of cruelty...tho you have been refuted by many each time...
and seen as a clown...which you still are..
arguing with you is senseless...giving you a proscenium from which to postulate more stupidity shows chris either really needs some sleep, or is manuevering your hate into some kind of equation that serves his legal agendas...
tho that's naive, the ag office could care less about you or any out of stater, semper fi monkey like yourself or not...
when you make a public apology to Liko's parents for the series of ugly personal attacks, then, you'd still be irrelvant, but would probably have some spiritual evolution in your personal life...

but you haven't the rep or the history or the sense of decency or the, frankly, intelligence, to be of much use...tho there's always a method to Chris' madness...bless him.

i'd rather you cling to the 'dirt bag rich kid' fantasy, as you do...
and will personally keep tagging you as an idiot, because you keep proving it...
and from very far away from these villages...and the dynamic here...and the long history of mckay abuse...
you came in ignorant and vicious; you remain so...

if there's some kind of critical mass for out of stater idealogues deciding that they agree that the law should be follwed as to disclosure...that's far from revelatory, or even significicant...

when you apologize for you cruel stupid mouth and a series of truly ugly slanderous slams, which you will never do, then i would believe in your humanity...
you came in a sucker. you came in blasting...you still suck...
go post on your own hitless blog...

this 'rich kid dirt bag' had a full time job, and was always looking for honest work, hard work, and doing it...you type anemic bullshit on a ridiculous blog that has drawn not even flies...
it just shows your jealousy and again, without anger toward you foro, your complete ignorance of the dynamics and lifestyle and people involved in these sad events...

who cares if you agree or not about the police and ag and select board incompetence and lies that you have no power, influence, or balls to affect in any manner whatsoever...

here's the monkey today:

"I will not fail the great confidence you invested in me, and will prove over and over again that Liko was not some kind of spiritual hero and/or tormented soul, but an irresponsible young man who thought that defending his non-extant right of driving an unregistered car was more important than a human life."

this guy from new york is stil in fantasy world as it comes to who Liko was and the litany of abuse he was continually and snakily exposed to...HE'S gonna tell you who Liko was, who Liko was not, and what Liko "thinks" or "thought" about 'driving an unregistered car' being 'more important than a human life'...
whoa...
the guy is still tracking martians and drooling nonsense...

monkey goes on:

" I will also state vigorously that the police should be held accountable for wrongdoing, if there is any, and if a fact is established in a court of law, whereby an official was lying, that should be severely punished."

okay he's two months behind everyone else with this...but will do nothing proactive about it...a meaningless statement..."if a fact is established in a court of law"...
that's the last place you're gonna find a 'fact established' in a state run by ayotte...
don't know why chris would suck up to a troll, but he probably has a bigger grander picture in mind...

you're still botox von pigger to me...you are a very cruel reactionary with a big mouth, loose tongue and no balls...and an irrelevant zero affect on the culture up here, or likely anywhere else...
i hold my ground...
love and light Liko...love and light
anonymuss

Anonymous said...

lifer, lifer, lifer.......
my personal interest here is for these young adults in your community, and communities everywhere.
the profiling, targeting and labeling according to age, associations, and perceived potential for untoward behavior is my gripe.
liko is the unfortunate example of cruel interplay that finally exploded. i maintain, hunter/prey.

the sadness, fear, anger and reported continued targeting of liko's friends and acquaintances in the aftermath of 2 deaths within this group should be well tended ....if only because it is human to be compassionate. they will survive with the help of fine role models, and become strengthened by these life lessons.
god bless,
TL

Anonymous said...

later, foro -

i'm at work...and i need my job!

TL

Anonymous said...

but just quickly, foro...
i'm not mentioning the developments in brain science to excuse anyone's behavior. mental illness is not an excuse, but a potential EXPLANATION for behavior.
let me be crystal clear here...i DO NOT believe or even suggest that liko was, in any way, mentally impaired. so don't go there. no one is legally or morally capable of making such a determination.
my point was and is that human beings do not develop in a straight line, and we don't arrive at the same place at the same time.
a 19 y/o young man/woman may be a fine scholar, and/or athlete, but during the same 6 month period in his life, may also impulsively make a poor choice and be sanctioned for doing so. eventually, he/she will mature and not repeat the mistake.
a 25 year old may be educated, employed, and married with 3 children.....while another may be still living at home, working toward financial independence.
surely, you've lived long enough to understand these dynamics. SO
STOP JUDGING SO HARSHLY....as you and yours may be similarly judged.

TL

Christopher King said...

I'm baaaack....

And have been busy with the today's emails between Attorneys Ayotte, Strelzin and Mullen and myself.

Click on the bottom link after you watch me have sport with NH Insider dorko.

I can handle all three of these clowns but it doesn't leave much time to follow up on posts

I will continue to welcome Foro but will say this:

His purported argument that Liko was not any sort of Good Spirit is belied by the presence of this blawg, ipso facto.

Foro Van Neinbaaster said...

Greetings TL,

a 19 y/o young man/woman may be a fine scholar, and/or athlete, but during the same 6 month period in his life, may also impulsively make a poor choice and be sanctioned for doing so.

I honestly believe that each has his/her own path, and that people are/should be free to make choices. There are few limits to this that. It was OK for Liko to smoke weed that day, that is if he was prepared to take responsibility for that if necessary. It was also OK for him to drive an unregistered car, provided the same. Look, this is his life and his choices. It was not OK, however, for Liko to take somebody else's life because he had a history of refusing to present his driver license to this particular officer out of spite, and other altercations.

SO STOP JUDGING SO HARSHLY....as you and yours may be similarly judged.

Read above... I have no right to prescribe how Liko should have lived his life, with one exception -- his behavior on that particular day was so destructive that it went way beyond the issue of his freedoms vs alleged police abuse. I'm not judging someone harshly for having an offensive tatoo, or even our friend anonymuss for using the N-word on this board. That's his choice. But firing that .45 cal into a person who's not even facing you... I'm sorry but as living human being I have a HUGE problem with that... And HARSH feelings for that particular behavior.

Anonymous said...

well this is an open board with no erasures or censorship...borox von retardo just asccused me of using the 'n' word here...

prove it...
i never use that word, not in writing, not in private, not in public...ever...

prove it...
right here and now; prove it...
that's an outright lie...
but everyone should be entirely familiar with your puerile vicious horseshit by now...
just prove it...simple as that...
i don't even know what color you are...other than yellow, as in yellow for coward, yellow for yellow journalism...
whatever color or race you are, you are a troll...a distraction from the hard and intelligent work going on here...
that's a serious charge as far as i'm concerned...
you can't EVER debate me on the terms on ANY subject...
so u stoop to publically printing i used the 'n' word....
prove it...or shut up, finally and completely...
what a nimrod...what a devious hate clown...
what a marvelous example of the kind of tenacious cruelty and deception that gets someone shot, oh say four or five times, after a sucker punch...
borox, you are a great microcosmic example of the entire problem; corruption, stupidity and vile public lies....
let's keep it simple...
prove it...produce the quote...
simple...prove it...
you can't, and won't...
and that leaves you...publically annointed, one more time, as not only an idealogue reactionary who's got it wrong...but as a professional troll...
and you're not very good at that either...
PROVE IT OR SHUT UP; what a stunningly sick accusation...what a vicious agenda...
like mckay...you can't stand up eye to eye for the truth, so you plant lies and foster hatred...
PROVE IT...YOU SAID IT; NOTHING GETS CENSORED FROM HERE...THE MODERATOR IS BLACK...HE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE ERASED OR EDITED IT OUT...PROVE IT...
RIGHT NOW...

foro von goebbels is a clever liar with a big agenda. Chris, you're not playing him, he's playing YOU...and turning your blog into a hell hole called the foro von hitler show...
wake up.

here's the boro von ayottos direct quote:

"I'm not judging someone harshly for having an offensive tatoo, or even our friend anonymuss for using the N-word on this board. That's his choice. But firing that .45 cal into a person who's not even facing you... I'm sorry but as living human being I have a HUGE problem with that... And HARSH feelings for that particular behavior.

so PROVE your lie...
as to the rest of your moral posturing...
GEE? really? mckay's shooting was a tragedy?
gosh, no one else would have ever picked up on it...

no one here has, right from the beginning, had suggested that Liko firing that weapon was appropriate...
you are such a neanderthal troll; attempting to drag us back in time, revealing 'revelations' that were clear to everyone in the first half hour after the shootings...

PROVE IT Borox...
you have just and finally, proven yourself totally disingenuous, totally bought, totally stupid, and totally useless...
anonymuss..

PROVE IT>..don't post another post without proving it...
make him prove it people, or don't respond to him at all...

you lying pig.
YOU are symptomatic of the lies and sneak attacks that get someone's ass shot and balls ripped off...
you have no balls to ripp off...

tell floyd 'hey' next time you guys chat over the phone and laff about your takeover of the blog...
Liko is not a murderer, neither was he a liar, you murder the truth and every breath you take is a lie.
go back to your own blog...
interesting that the accusation should even come up and out of your mouth tho, innit?

transparent baby...a window into your own racism, classism, jealousy, hatred and trollery...
anonymuss

Anonymous said...

boro von hitler is a professional troll; he is here, and has been very effective!!, at dumbing down the process, distracting the research and starting arguments over nothing...
he is working with others...
and taking over your blog chris...

this from a previous post of mine assessing borox von ayottos presence here...

expect to see it every time he posts anything...

from july 12th; thread title was :

12 July 2007
Franconia Police Chief Mark Montminy is out of Rule on Fox Hill RSA 91-A request.

my post is here...and it's the last time i'll need to go into my take on furio von ayottos obvious techniques...he's not working alone either...btw...he's a troll and his several dozens of provacative posts serve only to dumb down the process and distract...

i'm pasting this again because i don't want to go into the furo von hitler/ayottos's anaylsis again...
if he can come up with the proof; i'm gone. and will never post here again...
if he can't...i suggest that every time borox von insipidos shows up here, that someone nails him hard...he IS Ayottes office...do not think that something as important and revelatory as this blog isn't being professionally watched, and trolled...
anonymuss....
my post 7/12, in yet another response to vindictive trollery by boro von himmler, consisted of:
""
kenney grabbed mckays groin when mckay thrust it into kenneys face while kenney was being restrained and beat down by the responding officers.
that's a sick bendo twisto copperoonie there...and a cruel one...
liko was in a public place, not a suspicious place...sober as a judge and waiting for his friends to meet him...right at the trail head...not a high crime area...yes kenney acted up and out...full of outrage at being hassled by this cop, who's reputation was well established at this point already...
foro you never want to look at mckays record or the reasons why the community was frightened and suspicious of him...
u never answer too much of anything with regard to historical fact...we know this...there's your 'most professional behaviour'...
anyway, you didn't answer Chris' question on point, so i won't go over the same points over and over with a useless troll, only to have them continually ignored and answered with the spin that was destroyed weeks ago for those without a hate agenda and those who pay attention...
so who cares what you believe really...you have already disgraced yourself time and time again on your own wingnut hate blog and with constant appearances here...a paid troll repeating, ann coulter like, the 'message discipline' your vicious ilk is famous for...
regardless of any facts on the table...or contentions in the air...
mckay wasn't courteous, he was a combative coward macing children and 100 lb. women and then lying to lawyers and judges in attempt to keep his series of videos (all coming out to the light of day foro von spinnmeister...)from scrutiny by a judge...

... and LIko wasn't a loser, except at the hands of targetted and sustained police abuse...

mckay asked for leniency is a modern myth...Liko was not breaking one law at the time of being teased, taunted and intentionally tormented by mckay...

so no matter how many times you or Ayotte's office repeat the well published bullshit, it dosen't make it any more true, or mckay any less dead...
and liko, as well you know by now, you lying provacateur, did not run over anybody...a multi drug addicted moron on a plethora of wacky psyche and heavy pain drugs, did his killing with impunity...
he killed Liko with a sucker bait shot to to the head thru the windshield where he could not have possibly seen Liko's gun, (which floyd has testified fell out of liko's car thru the window)...
I don't like feeding the trolls and know you're a paid autamaton, trying to get some 'hero' points here amongst your diminishing hate crowd...so there is no reasoning with you...
you are just an antagonist and are quoted here and referred to here, only as an automaton vicious geek representive of the kind of closed minded reactionary slow minded person that Ayotte is selling her spin to...knowing there'd be reactionary idealogues aplenty to suck up the lies...and give them life of their own, even when those lies were destroyed...

so you are irrelevant and predictable...and foolish...

you NEVER answer on point, because you don't have a point, you have automaton spin and self righeous name calling arrogance...

you are a provacateur trying to discredit these efforts here by teasing and taunting with endless lies...in that regard i can understand you putting the brutal mckay on a pedastal...despite warnings from the local level to the state level about his criminality with the badge we allowed him to wear on his steroidal uglyass, soon to be shot up, body...\

so you're all about lies and spin, and not answering ANYTHING, EVER on point...a defintional troll; tolerated only because you are suck a spin wash repeat spin again moron that you represent an interesting demographic...the arrogant uninformed...the ann coulter, without the experience, but likely with the black coctail dress...
as you always need to be mentioning 'hero' all over your blog and posts...
you are transparent...
you are foolish...you are trying to get a rise out of people so that someone says something imprudent, a mckay power technique btw, and look where it got him...
...so hide undercover, deliver some stink bombs and then disappear having engaged on NO point...
you are not even a worthy adversary...
i think each time u post here, about fifty of us should raid your idiot blog...but that would give you 'hits' and legitimacy you don't deserve...and as you can see, members of the general populace are disagreeing with you on your own nasty blog section, where people can comment about this issues...
so, you're losing everywhere, but have to come back regularly with the same nonsense...
it's your bread and butter...
truth is ours...we're not for sale...you are not so much aggravating as you are, as i've stated previously, a vigilante justice proponent with a vicious personal agenda...

you don't have a bio on your blog...you're not out in the open like Chris...
you're a coward with a pseudonymn, an irrelevant blog with no substantial readership...and if not an officer bringing your shameful stupidty to the backs of other innocent officers in service...
...then you are merely a syncophant fishing for dollars or hero approval, or perhaps even hero status...
we've heard the spin already...you haven't heard the responses, nor cared to address any of them....which makes you a disingenuous coward at best...
love and light Liko...
Liko lives...
Liko lives...
mckay/floyd tag team got tagged out...
your kind promotes criminality, cruelty, obfuscation, lies and letting a junkie murderer getr a free pass among decent people in Easton and Franconia...
but you know all this...
and we know all this...
so spin away little monkey...
i'll bring a banana with me so you can get a treat after you get your chain yanked...bad monkey...
that geek in a cage analogy from yesterday comes to mind...
your techniques are tired, even in the hands of the 'professional' news whores you adore...
and in your silly shaking incompentent troll hands, they are just cause for laughter...taunt away baby...
have at it...
i'm thru feeding trolls...
but watch your mouth anyway...cause i will be back to kick your dumb ass occasionally; you must like it...it must appeal to your own sexual disturbances...because you keep coming back with nothing in the way of argument, only to get your silly ass kicked again and again...do you need the attention that badly?
cause mckay did...
and floyd did...
mckay got total attention and focus after awhile of continually demanding it...
i tell you, i've never seen anybody empty a clip that fast in my life...mckay must've been ready to increase the attack up another level, but Liko, saved the community from his brutality once and for all...a shame it came to this...but if some numbnuts keeps pushing, shit happens...tragic shit, as we've lost a native son with great spirit and heart...who did the clean up job the chief, and the selectboard and the attorney's general office refused to do...
he was afraid for his life...he was violently rammed and was lucid and careful to communicate that all he wanted was another officer at the scene, as mckay's legendary and long list of extra-legal and extra-curricular violence toward women and children was ignored by monti me and the select board...
we don't mind going over these facts again and again so that new visitors can see how easily the official spin is refuted...and how repeatedly those like you, who represent that spin in depserate attempts to legitimize it, even in the face of mounds of solid contradictory evidence...

you are on display here...that is why you're tolerated or responded to at all...so whoever is paying you, in dollars or satisfying your little girl lost ego...is not getting their money's worth...

it is ridiculous to assume you will change your techniqes or ever answer or engage on point...you will just spit out the spin and run away from the truth...like a fascist coward...like a yellow streaked coward, ala mckay, your hero. like floyd your murdering hero...
it's good for people to see that the level of intelligence in Ayotte's supporters is heil hitler syncophant hate cowards on a terror campaign...
it's not so much people like reagan and bush and goodling and cheney and rove and mckay and lying non viet nam vet, drugged up collaborator in murder floyd...are bad characters doing horrid things, as much as it's complicity and encouragement from dead brained members of the public that allow these myths and message discipline rush limbaugh talking points to prevail in the culture...
i'd give you another clue, or another fact. or another refutation, but frankly, you don't deserve one...
if you cared about the truth and the inconsistincies and outright lies in the AG report, you would have seen at least one of them by now...you are only here to taunt...find a reactionary victim and taunt...like mckay...like coulter...like goebbels...like lee atwater and his pal rove...
you and your ilk are responsible for so many innocent service deaths...even this day...
the worst kind of coward is a lying provacetuer coward...
please, someone else kick his useless ass...or just ignore him...
maybe we can come up with a generic response to all of borox von smallweenie's posts...something short and generic...like 'no troll zone' or perhaps just pasting one of the many ass kickings he's already received here...
he sticks out like a sore thumb here; not because he offers cogent criticism, that is always welcomes...
but because he's a tanting provacateur troll...on a business mission...
u don't even rate a tremor on my 'irked' meter at this point...
you will continue...
your blog is history, your credibility is zero, your mission is failed and your attempts to stir up violence and vigilante justice are not working...you are a coward...not important enough, or powerful enough, to warrant a disucssion you are incapable of following...
in short, you are a good example of a very bad man...
and a cowardly one...moronic spin dry wingnut troll...
wife beaters and criminals are your heros...Liko knew your kind very well...unfortunately...
you will get, when your time comes, as it comes to all of us in these mortal bodies, will not get your wreck of a beaten family to the funeral, never mind several hundreds celebrating your spirit even in the rain, as folks did for Liko, who generated love and sweetness among his friends and the community at large he served faithfully at his Agway job...mckay wouldn't let it go, for years on end...toruring, baiting the kid...like your anemic attempts at powerless hero worship here...it got him killed..., no one will come to your funeral when that time comes for you to pass, and may it be in the far future, may you enjoy good health, even tho you cause others misery with some of the foulest hate speech i've ever seen, which is saying something in today's environment...you left a slime trail on your interactive comment section of our blog...,
so, at the occasion of your sad passing, hopefully far into the future, you will be alonely corpse...like no one comes to your blog, or your home to visit you...no one will honor you in death...no one honors you in life...that's why you're a troll, sitting alone in your underwear, beating off to cop pictures and cashing your rnc checks...
...no one really respects you or your series of drunk rages behind the wheel...you, like ayotte, like mckay, like floyd, have exposed yourself...not even a need for anyone here to knock you around...tho i do it just to keep the place from your stench...

on with the work, you are a distraction...and you have had your silly cowardly ass KICKED on EVERY point in EVERY hate post you've stuck here...you have lost EVERY round...but show up at the imaginary bell, shadow boxing and pretending you've got the hard stare and the guns to back it up...you got nothing...you offer nothing but a good example of an idealogue caught in the light...and twisting in the wind...spitting out worn out old talking points refuted weeks ago...and you do it on purpose with an agenda to disempower this effort, by taunting people intentionally, continually, hoping to get your death threat or something else you can publicize to discredit this honest and brilliant effort; this magnetic glorius infectious fount of truth and activism for the many from our area who do know the truth...
got your number boring von goebbels sieg heil...yavol...
type away hero...type away...

perhaps i'll prepare a compendium of your stupid psots, or the many cogent answers to your provacative drool...that way, we won't have to do this every day...
buh bye boro von rippednutsack...fire away son...if this is the best you've got, and boy you've tried some stunningly ugly vicious stuff with your posts here...but if that's all you got...you must be a masochist...or perhaps your missing hero mckay's private parts...maybe you're the missing evidentiary link as to his sexual problems with other men, not to mention his violence problems with women...
u continue to do great harm to the honest officers that are truly out there trying to make a difference...coming from a place of professionalism and a high regard of peace and the law...and truly protecting his employers and the commnity...
you are a danger to the community...as all lying political provateurs are...

perhaps you're just here to distract some of the attention off of Ayotte...is that why you're getting paid...either in money or attaboys from those who's attention you drool for so pathetically...
you are transparent geek boy...totally see thru transparent...much more than you know...every place you go...



unfriggin quote...

and today, the certain proof...thanx von genocido!
he's working with others and effectively, to mute these voices, and keep the arguments puerile and slowwwww and backwards...teasing and taunting so he can get some choice quotes for his masters and devalue this wondrous effort...
wake up chris.
anonymuss

WHERE'S YOUR PROOF BOTOX VON HITLER???
check with your supervisors and figure out what to blog in response...you are transeffinparent baby...

Anonymous said...

I'll say it "nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger". It is just a word.

Anonymous said...

it might be just a word to you; and that's your perogarive to use it...
however I DID NOT...and as a matter of principle NEVER DO...
and was LIED ABOUT DIRECTLY BY VON HITERLO's troll brigade; he's in ayotte's pocket from the gitgo...

this is about slander and lies and a hate attack on the entire effort here...
not on that particular word...
and your post was a stupid response to my points along these lines...and an ugly one...are you on the underground troll-distraction team with ayotte/von hitler and the rest of the crew? because believe me, they are here.
a-muss

Christopher King said...

Oh, my the N-word rears its ugly head.

I'm going to have my Friday chat with a gaggle of lawyers from a local firm and give them this week's updates over a cold one.

I'll respond to this a wee bit later.

I, your humble narrator.

-Alex.

Anonymous said...

no Chris, not really about the 'n' word...it's about trolls posting dozens of posts, dumbing down the effort and taking over a considerable amount of energy from dozens of people who have responded to his calculated techniques, posing, albeit very authentically, as mere hopelesss stupidity...

he's on HIS agenda...and it's working...
not about the 'n' word or any other word...it's the cumulative effect of a non stop attack...
sound familiar???

von hitler has his own blog; consisting of a grand total of 3 rather poorly written opinion pieces to himself...
no responses, no other action on his 'blog'...
so he is here...
and for his 'complete profile'
you get zip zero nada...
he's a professional provacateur and troll working with ayotte and her interests...probably a effin relative...
i can understand anonymous postings on sensitive issues where you can expect police state harassment...
that's why many people are afraid to post...
many many...because they can get your computer i.d. in a ny minute and know more about your personal stuff than you even remember...

but to start his own effort, and hide his name, whereabouts, etc...??

google him...
all that comes up are his posts here...not even one for his 'blog'...
he's zero in the culture...
as a writer, thinker or whatever...anyone can start a free blog...he did early this year and posted a few stupid essays...
he's a plant...and we keep watering him..
it's a set up...
he'll get a few choice quotes, accurate or not...
and those will be used to delegitmize all these efforts as ayottes ass gets more scrutinized, as this process goes on...and BOY it's gonna be a big story...and SOON...
a story with legs forever...
but a sustained period of heat coming this Autumn...
boro von hitler is ayotte's boy...& she's gonna need all the swill reactionary dumbass help she can get...oh yes she is...
we know they don't care if it's true or not...just if it's USABLE...
von hitler is a troll.
wake up.
a-muss

Christopher King said...

All Good.

I am going to spend an appreciable amount of time on this post just reading it and a few others tonight to get back in touch with the Spirit.

Meanwhile, didja' notice that Kelly didn't even sign her own official report?

Anonymous said...

google him...
all that comes up are his posts here...not even one for his 'blog'...


Actually, if you google him properly, you land at a spam-baiter message board (where people mess with the Nigerian Embassy or Poor Aunt Millie needs your money spammers, trying to lead them on). Seems the Neinbaaster name was created by one of the members there, probably the same guy who's now posting here.

Christopher King said...

5:15 and 'Muss:

Yeah I noticed how you can't see anything about this guy anywhere.

No biggie though, always keep your enemies closer than your friends.

Peace, Aloha, Namaste.

Anonymous said...

Anonymuss,

I happen to agree that he is accomplishing his goal to take us away from ours.

I choose to not respond to his nonsense....it comes from a very dark place and it is an effort to rob us of the light and power we feel to do what is right.

With me has pretended to be different posters in an attempt to bait me as I have stated that I do not want to interact with him.

Anonymuss, since we agree on this why don't you join me in a pact of non-response to him. What he is saying is worthless to those of us that are close enough to the actual situation. Let the man choke on his own bait. Of course, he will attempt with different personalities and anonymous posts but it doesn't take long to know who you are dealing with.

It is sad really that a person can be so systematic in their intent to destroy and attack others. Alot like McKay, now that I think about it.

Stay strong and stay the course,

debby

Christopher King said...

Hi Debby and Muss:

I think I'm all set with responding to Foro as well.

I brought "him" in here because you keep your enemies closer than your friends, and elicited a comment that we are correct to go after the missing and non-published State materials with a lawsuit.

That's good enough for me, time to circle the wagons and declare a victory.

Especially since you look around and try to Blog search "him" and you get nothing.

Absolutely. Nothing.

Except his own site.

Anonymous said...

yeh thank you debby; i'm sorry to be so late in picking up this post from you...
absolutely...i've seen where you've tracked his 3 'anonymous' posts in quick succession, you are right on top of this sitch, thanx for input and encouragement...
pro troll; sick provaceteur, and really quite nasty as well...
he gets off on it...
i'm sure he's here on a mission to disrupt and destroy...but dosen't really have the smarts or the power, and i take comfort and strength in your analysis and suggestions, as usual...thanks debby
anonymuss...

Christopher King said...

Meanwhile, here is what Nashua Telegraph Columnist Dean Shalhoup had to say:

Blam to the haters. I mean, what next "Oh that Dean Shalhoup, he's a real wacko...."