24 July 2007

KingCast watches as concerned faces ask why NH AG Kelly Ayotte supported 2003 Civil Rights violations by Franconia police at Fox Hill Park.

"What do you think about Bruce McKay?"
"Oh, Bruce was a bully..... did I tell you about the 98-lb. girl he maced over there so hard she passed out and had to be taken to the hospital from right over there?" asked one person who will appear in our film, "Franconia 5/11" but who would rather minimize her online visage.

As noted in yesterday's post, Judge Cyr found Constitutional violations for Fox Hill Park raids not unlike the violation I noted in my "McKay violated Liko Kenney's Miranda" blawg post weeks before I knew of State v. Wright.

As such, Liko Kenney was absolutely correct to tell that bully cop Bruce McKay he had "no right to keep [me here] without Good Cause," as I have repeatedly stated.

But NH AG Kelly Ayotte's official report makes no mention of the Constitutional violations involved in a Fox Hill case that occurred just weeks prior to Liko's case and which was terminated at almost exactly the same time as well -- despite the fact that there is a Motion to Suppress in Liko's file from the same attorney and the nol-pross is clearly noted as well.

You can't fool another AG Kelly. I knew from the get-go that you and your LE cronies were covering up Constitutional violations and more, and I will dedicate the rest of my natural life to proving it and running your name into the ground if I deem that necessary. For now, I look forward to oral argument with you on the Mandamus filing, which I am constructing a wee bit more with every passing day. I must thank you and curse you at the same time for providing me so much material from which to choose.

Attorney James T. Brooks' granted Motion to Suppress one, two, three, four

Denied McKay's Memorandum Contra one, two.

Liko's nol-prossed (dismissed) possession charges one, two .

But hey in today's society a cop can shoot you with no good reason and get away with it on a criminal level. Just ask U.S. Armed Forces Veteran Elio Carrion who was shot while clearly complying with a stated command from a law enforcement officer.

48 comments:

M. A. said...

Chris, Amuss(sic), Debby, others,

I need to post on something that happened back about 10 posts ago; Chris posted an email from Dean Shaloup(sic) of the Telegraph on this blog.

It was an email that, when sent, was assumed to be a private email from an admiring journalist who was revealing some potentially damaging personal thoughts to Chris, in SUPPORT OF HIS WORK. Dean certainly would not have been as revealing as he was if he had known Chris would publish it add a little "spice" to the next blog.

Chris responded to me when I questioned him on it (on the next day's blog) that his policy was simple; if someone told him not to publish him, he wouldn't publish it.

Now, best I can tell, this is a bullshit explanation. No one adds "Don't print this by the way" when they're writing something which reveals some very sensitive and personal opinions to someone with half a brain because it violates common sense to burn a supportive reporter, in an influencial newspaper, when you're hoping the media will cover your crusades; it's just shortsighted and foolish to do so. (Hey, I only ran him over because he didn't say, "Don't run me over...")

I appeal to the supportive regulars of this blog to try to help Chris see how this type of behavior is self-sabotaging in the long run; it hurts the cause of getting this information out, shows people that Chris is willing to burn supportive allies for an interesting blog posting, and just doesn't make any damn sense at all.

This isn't an attack on Chris, but clearly he's just blind to this part of his own behavior; Lord knows we all have blind spots. Unfortunately, Chris is the only one doing this type of work locally, so we can't just look to someone else. This kind of stupid shit is going to make it so much more difficult for the story of what really happened up there, and the resultant cover-up, to get out there. Good luck, the best friends are sometimes the ones willing to kick you in the ass...

br said...

Chris, some of your links go to duplicate pages; thus some pages are missing (e.g. the p.2 of the motion to suppress actually goes to p.3).

m.a., I totally agree with you that publishing that e-mail showed very, very poor judgment. Permission should have been asked and explicitly GRANTED. If Dean S. wasn't comfortable with it, and wasn't willing to provide any reworded version he was comfortable with, that should have been the end of it.

Anonymous said...

i'm not sure how to respond to you M.A.
I've scrolled back to find the original post and Chris' response; along the way I found a few very critical posts by you or someone using "m.a."

'critical posts' are always interesting and nothing gets erased or censored out of here...in fairness 'you' (Or someone pretending to be you?) authored one of the 'light being' troll posts...
...before we busted that silliness...
...and someone in what seems like your consistent 'voice' here was pretty busy slurring several of the people you are addressing with this complaint regarding the journalist's letter to Chris...
so i'm not sure of your intentions or relative 'reality' in terms of desiring full disclosure, or EVER identifying or concurring with ONE of the many obvious overt and intentional lies in the AG report...nor refuting one of these charges directly on point...
so, i dunno...
did you call or email the writer in question? it's an easy thing to do...
are you sure a professional writer would write directly to Chris complimenting the blog effort and leaving his name, email and phone number would be desperately against publication of same?

it would be easy to verify...
...but if you have done that, i didn't see it, please advise further with some specificity if you would be so kind...

i did see Chris' response and thought it very reasonable...the first thing someone who wanted their anonynimity preserved for professional and private reasons would write to Chris in an email, would be a request for Chris to respect and keep that anonynimity preserved.

I know of two personal cases where anonynimity requests were made in communications to Chris, from people with high profiles in the community and elsewhere...and they have been absolutely respected and protected...

so, i don't know if that writer is pissed off...
i rather suspect a professional journalist would have been very clear about the 'private' nature of an email to Chris, (which was not presented, unless Chris specifically edited out and is guilty of screwing that person as you suggest...and there is no indication or evidence that i can see of that...

Chris can defend himself, if he thinks it warranted...
i don't mean to answer your post disrepectfully, but i rather suspect that you run a little devious with some trollery and then 'identifying yourself' at times with "m.a." signatures...in quasi support of the effort...
...i'm not afraid of personal criticism on point, and i can't and don't and never have pretended to assume that i can speak for Chris King or any other blogger here...

...but i don't see the injury, nor evidence of the injury, other than your complaint...
perhaps you can call the writer and ask him if he felt violated...

it's reasonable for fair critics to hold posters' "feet to the fire" on points they disagree with or find offensive, imo...but personally i doubt your own personal sincerity, and you make an awful lof of criticisms without the 'proof' you so consistently demand from others, who usually take great pains to respond on point in fair spirit...

i'm sure Chris will address this, well i'm not sure, he already attempted to...

...i just dunno m.a.
i thought it was a great and important email of support and can't figure out just why it would burn your butt...
...unless you think, as you are inferring, that Chris included that with no care for the personal or professional jeopardy of a writer who apparently had no trouble writing an open email to Chris in great support of his efforts...

...so you are assuming a certain paradigm that i don't personally see manifested...

print journalists especially, would be very careful to request privacy and anonymity if they wanted to keep things hidden...it seems to me...

but i'm just one independent voice here...

and i don't want to answer a fair critique with hostitility or changing the subject...but i honestly do, and please forgive me if i'm wrong and correct me clearly, but i honestly think your 'light being' post, and a history of others posts, declaring yourself sort of the arbiter of Chris' credibility and sincere committment, to be less than honestly credible themselves...

give the guy a call or write him an email and take his temperature...
...i don't agree with this criticism, either of the 'printing' of his email in total...(Chris if you edited it, please fess up)...
and Chris has worked too hard and too sincerely imo, travelling, filing, investigation, writing and confronting the highest officers in the state directly and in public, for me to do anyting other than appreciate his efforts frankly...very much so...

you seem to have a 'thing' for exposing Chris as just self-serving...i don't see it that way frankly...

Yes he has a big personality, and i've jotted a critical post myself once or twice in this regard, and have NEVER been edited, nor attacked by Chris, nor treated unkindly by him for making observations...
so personally, i trust the guy. and appreicate him immensely...and think him courageous...
...part of his activism is clearly documenting interviews and evidence in a film format, and that's a really totally EFFECTIVE and legitmate format imo...
...and i support it...

I sometimes have wondered if the 'self promotion' aspects were appropriate, as i've admitted, and day to day, week to week, month after month now...i find him credible and incredibly caring and giving...
...and also intersested in protecting people; ANYBODY who writes to him in earnest and requests protection...

To the extent that Chris is already a public figure of sorts in different areas, well that's hard earned, and the often the result of him just standing up to attacks by the legal system, SUCCESSFULLY, which is pretty incredible when you think about it for a minute...
He is taking a leading effort in these matters in some ways, and i'm sure glad of that...
...and Ayotte, police chiefs, selectpersons etc...have HUGE public Personalities, and I'm glad Chris identifies himself proudly and loudly as he takes the switch to their lying butts...

if he crosses a line, he will be criticised by many, starting with people in Liko's immediately family, and immediately family of friends...and by bloggers here...
i don't worry about it.
i'm out front admitting i trust him, ENCOURAGE his public persona, as it's useful and deserved, and in fact, paints a bigass target on his own back...

...not to mention all the hard work and many hours it takes to take on a project like this, both blogging and assembling filmed snippets or an entire edited docu on this...WHILE STILL HAVING TO WORK A REGULAR JOB IN A RESTAURANT TO KEEP PAYING HIS BILLS, including paying for his own 'lost time' as an earner while working ceaselessly here...

he's not going to get a big $$ payoff from this film...and if somehow, a product manifests and is picked up for broadcast, i hope he gets some of his production monies back, and more...i have zero problem with that...

respectfully, i think you have a bit of a history as a troll, rather than a dedicated history of fair judgement on the facts of this case...it's smacks of subtle, sometimes overt, intentinonal impeachment and distraction to me...

...please keep posting...you are as public and 'read' as anyone else who posts here...
what's with the 'light being' stuff m.a.? really...
methinks thou doth protest too much in this regard?
but i'm keepin' my mind open...
I've seen generosity of spirit and integrous actions on Crhis' part in many instances...
if he wants to end up respected as a documentarian, good for him...if his work deserves it, i really hope that happens...i'm a bit of a cynic these days, and again, just one anonymous person here, and also have like ZERO interest in deifying any public or semi-public figure...
but Chris has my respect and support and personal gratitude frankly...
ty for reading this...
please, if you respond, know that i'm sorry for the ramble here, but there are a few salient direct points i've asked you to research and respond to and would appreciate your responding on point, as i've attempted to do in response to your concerns...
...and my own concerns about your own credibility...
my ass has been kicked at here so many times i'm used to it...but i'd fold under the pressure people try to put on Chris everday, and i'm a pretty intense counter-puncher, or so have been accused.
peace...context...'we' try to stay on point with the corruption, danger and attempts to mitigate it, eliminate it, and expose the deep, literally murderous corruption...
THEY KILLED A KID OVER NOTHING, NOTHING...AND THEY ARROGANTLY EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT, SANS CHALLENGE...
NO WAY.
I'm fighting that. several on this blog are...and i know for a certain fact, personally know for a certain fact, that many in the community who do not post here, or even bother to read this blog...are very concerned about this issue and take great comfort in the work being done here. because they are on the front lines just by virtue of where they reside, and what they have seen and lived with, and what they have lost...in the way of a dear friend, and also in the way of a sweet town with the most excellent people, being smeared, attacked and have had their community, and their safety, and their peace of mind, corrupted by this lying Attorney General, and a support cast of Belz, Mcleod, and certain, NOT ALL, political players on the 'reconcilation' committee effort...

Go Chris! Be big as you want and as big as your heart and knowledge and continuing committment defines you...

i have purposely not pasted your 'light being' posts, or some other posts i am most certain are you, but signed 'anonymous' (as is your right if that's your desire)...but there is a consistency of subtle, if not overt criticism OFF point...and i question your own motivations and lack of research much more readily that what Chris presents, annotates, and advocates...

call the writer...if he's so stoopid as to desire anonymity, and not request it, that's not on chris...
if the journalist did request this and Chris purpsoely ignored it and edited that part out of that GLOWING LETTER OF THANKS TO HIM, then he'll have to admit it and prove it...
i don't think that's the case frankly...i do think it's possibly another in a series of purposeful distraction attacks on Chris' credibility without foundation or proof...
still, your opinion is your opinion and there it is...
and here's mine.
ty.

Anonymous said...

and really m.a. how can he win? somebody is always going to pee on his sox...not matter what he does...he's talked of putting filmed documentary evidence on YOUTUBE and similar outlest...that's not gonna get him 'income'...but that will get these issues ENORMOUS world wide distribution...you could do the same you know...

so if he's succesful, and has been more and more, at getting this story OUT...people will say, 'oh chris, you freak, it's all about you , isnt' it'
how can he win?
if he gets slammed or whacked or hacked, who's gonna support him or care?
You?
no he will be ridiculed for achievement, or ridiculed if the very heavy 'powers tha be' take him down...
think about it...
write him a thank you note.
you spend a lot of time here on this forum; something's fascinating you...and i don't see you joining in the investigation, or encourgaement of such...
i do see somewhat snide, and regular critiques that are off point distractions...my two cents...ty.

Anonymous said...

here is a look back to july 16:

Christopher King said...

M.A.

My policy is simple:

If you tell me not to print something I won't print it.

I have also, in several emails and on the Nashua Telegraph forum page, put Dean on constructive notice that I may print that email.

Not one person has ever complained about my use of their emails to me -- well except Kelly and Jeffery but that's too bad so sad hard cheese for them because that's all public record.

-c

-c

9:20 AM


it is most evident to me that chris' work on behalf of liko, his family, friends, and citizen/blog supporters has remained steadfast and pure throughout.

his agenda is not hidden, and his work demands great personal sacrifice. he most likely carries an emotional burden as well as a burden of process with us and for us. he enjoys little more than the satisfaction of standing up for a young man who was felled by the system.

if and when this effort becomes mainstream, we can be certain it is chris who has led the way.....again, on behalf of liko and others who have suffered a betrayal of justice.

TL

Lifer said...

I have spoken to Chris many times, we have broken bread together in my home. I have told him several things in confidence, never once has that trust been broken. I have looked him in the eye and told him point blank not to betray the trust WE have put in him. His response was genuine, his heart is true, despite the naysayers.

If not for Chris King, who else would keep the pressure on? The powers that be in Franconia won't, they are the problem. The Recovery Team is a committee, and you know how effective committees can be, regardless of how well meaning the intentions. The affected parties (Kenneys and MacCauleys) can't due to pending litigation.

I expect Chris to follow through with the Mandamus, he and I spoke at length on that topic.

I hope that in the coming weeks the litigation and wrongful death suits will begin. Chris's relentlessness, along with anything the Kenney's and/or Caleb's attorneys may do will bring emense pressure upon the state and the town. This is a legal war, but not one WE asked for. It is a legal war the government has thrust upon us. As I told someone recently, hit them high, hit them low, and hit them in the middle, never give them a change to regroup.

As for any royalties, rights, etc, from a short film or whatever, everyone is entitled to make a living. Just know, WE, the Franconia Collective, know the goal is true, the heart is pure and $$ is not the objective.

Anonymous said...

M.A.,

although i clearly understand your concern that chris may have sabotaged the support of an admiring journalist due to the revelation of his sensitive and personal opinions, i, too, think it is a good suggestion to take your question directly to the source, dean shaloup, should you continue to remain uncomfortable about chris' journalistic integrity.

hopefully, the anonymous responder at 1:24AM has covered all points, in depth, and has satisfied your lingering concerns while offering options for redress.

chris remains, unfailingly, an activist and advocate extraordinaire. you clearly state that you are not attacking chris.

on a personal level, however, i was disturbed by the prospect of your considering to pack and run...and the suggestion that you would, had you a place to run to.

won't you please re-read the anonymous post of 2:43 on 7/23?...and perhaps you will then understand that this effort is anchored in franconia, on this blog, and wherever and whenever it needs to go next.

the post i cite is dressed with great clarity and purpose, in spite of the raw, painful emotions he/she suffers in the aftermath of tragic loss. i feel great empathy for, and join those who care for liko, then and now, and for the ripples and waves of change that this storm has brought about.

kindly,
TL

Christopher King said...

Man, damn enough of the Dean Shalhoup stuff already.

Dean knows I routinely put emails on this blawg it has been an M.O. for two years now and Dean has been reading this blawg for most of that time.

He is entitled to his opinion and it's not like he's going to be fired or anything and in fact all of the evidence I am uncovering supports his opinion anyway.

Hell, as far as anyone knows Dean might have known he couldn't publish such an editorial in the Telegraph so he let me do it.

Whatever, it's going in the Mandamus Petition because it's not just an interesting blog posting but rather proof positive that well-respected journalists agree that there is a cover-up in this case.

That is the larger point, which is important when you have police sellouts like Joe McQuaid (who never responded to my email, BTW) running around.

Meanwhile, I'm busy with other matters

M. A. said...

ty:

I've never posted anything under any other name here, so a large section of your post was a waste of time. It's too bad you try to dismiss a valid concern with various accusations of "trollery", but how about we get back to the subject and let the conspiracy theories go, eh?

(As an aside, I'm sure many people here would appreciate a little editing on your part; could you try to be a bit more "concise" in your postings? It clutters the blog, and causes "scrollery", know what I mean? Remember, just because your thoughts and writing are fascinating to YOU does not necessarily mean they are fascinating to anyone else.)

Here's the point of my post; we're not talking about a 1 on 1 conversation and "breaking bread"; we're talking about an email assumed to be private from an admiring journalist to Chris. I don't take the time of the bottom of every email that I want to remain private to type, "By the way, don't send this to the person I'm talking about, or release it on The Net..." It's not necessary because thinking people KNOW and REALIZE the implications of releasing sensitive opinions publicly.

This is especially true when a journalist is involved. Why should you want to burn someone that has shown they're on your side and when it's clear that they can be an excellent ally in getting out the story of an injustice like the one that Chris is investigating? An article in a paper like the Telegraph could break a story open and get the public at large to demand the answers that Chris is seeking here. It makes NO SENSE to completely BURN a writer for an important newspaper that was already on Chris' side in this matter, just for some material for a single days blog! It's crazy!

Any other journalist out there, even if they want to see justice done in this matter, is going to be totally wary of Chris now that he's shown that he will burn a journalist without even thinking about it. It's was a really poor decision, and the reason I'm asking regulars here to think about this is so that they can get Chris be more careful in the future!

Finally (I've already said this a million times, but thick skulls apparently need frequent repetition), please understand: I SUPPORT Chris' drive to reveal what really happened here, I truly believe he's incredibly talented individual, and NH will be a better place because of his work (he's already done a great service with his pressuring of the Nashua School Board and their policies). Yes, I've been critical. Why? Because I'm more worried about his work being compromised by shortsighted mistakes than whether I come off as a "buddy" or not. These posts are an effort to get a discussion here about the most productive way to get things done, and avoiding silly mistakes (which we all make at times). I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and I'm sure if you go back and look at my posts you'll see I've never supported the various "haters" here; I've been at the wrong end of a bad cop, I think that the "power elite" must be monitored closely or else they will abuse their power, etc, etc.

This is about a caring critique of someone doing important work because THE WORK AND THE ISSUE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ONE PERSON. That, to me, means that even though Chris is the one doing most of the work and giving up so much time, he has a responsibility to the people he is serving to listen to valid criticism in order to do his work better in the future. That's all.

And any posts infering that I'm this or that troll clearly can't handle a straight-out discussion of the issues I'm raising here. I'm counting on Chris' supporters here to consider these issues, and trying to communicate in an effort to further the cause of getting things right here. That's all.

M. A. said...

And by the way, to those wondering, I wouldn't be as adamant as I am about this if I didn't have some indication that he (Dean) expected the email to remain private.

And I'd like to see some discussion of the long-term implications of burning supporters, especially those that can be a help in the future. Sorry Chris, but your dismissal of this as unimportant is just an indication that you don't get it.

That's why it's important that your suppporters speak up on this issue to you. The ball is in their court on this.

M. A. said...

Chris King said:

"Hell, as far as anyone knows Dean might have known he couldn't publish such an editorial in the Telegraph so he let me do it."

Bullshit Chris. If you want to know better, why don't you ask him that and see for yourself?

Probably because you know the answer and don't want to hear it. Oh well, F*ck em all, right? The blog is all important, and if a few careers or reputations get stepped on, it doesn't matter. All hail the King, how ironic when the hero of the little guy stops caring about others...

Anonymous said...

I'll bet that journalist is in reality, really pissed off. He has a right to be.

Loose cannons have a way of damaging everything around them.

Lifer said...

m.a.

I too had similar reservations at first regarding his methodology and the blog in general. So I do understand your concerns.

But I was fortunate enough to meet CK and look him in the eye, voice my concern, and hear his explanation and committment. I think you can read in responses from the others above that they too voiced concerns at one point or another.

I think the use of the word "outing" was an unfortunate choice as it connotes betrayal. I really think the intent was to grab your attention and focus you on Dean's words to demonstrate the concern here cuts across many demographics and vocations.

Since we've all shared a similar concern regarding Chris's style and we each have reached similar conclusions independent of eachother, I think you should just address Chris offline or talk to Dean directly with this concern.

Anonymous said...

m.a. at 7:50 -
i don't consider myself to be among the thick skulls referenced here, but correct me if i am wrong....

i am in no way certain that DEAN is offended or violated or felt at risk by the release of his email to this blog. i know YOU are not convinced, otherwise.

chris isn't being worshipped here, nor is he the glory of 'one', so i'm sure your concern and your opinion matters, and is/has been taken into consideration. i notice in other instances the email sender's name has been redacted by chris....so he has chosen to reveal this gentleman's name with some forward thinking.

do you have direct knowledge that dean's name has caused harm?

TL

Anonymous said...

Considering that Chris hasn't come out and said "Hey, Dean had no problem with it", I would guess that Dean DID have a problem with it. But that is just a guess.

Chris: point blank: Was Dean upset about you posting the text of it, or was it all well and good with him?

Anonymous said...

m.a. doesn't like the conspiracy theories. Too Bad. If m.a. doesn't want us to explore them, he's essentially doing the thinking for us all. Was conspiracy on McKay's part a possibility? Was conspiracy on Floyd's part a possibility? Did anyone else in LE conspire to change the truth or manipulate evidence? Here's the thing, conspiracy is a crime, not just some crazy idea.... what we are exploring is whether or not a crime took place on 5/11. Or was 5/11 an accident?

Anonymous said...

Long ago, while walking in park near Franconia, I heard a scuffling sound in the woods. It was during the daytime, and didn't sound like it was made by other hikers.

I stood still for a time, but didn't hear the sound again. To this day, I wonder what that sound was.

Anonymous said...

10:36, that was bears. The problem has been solved.

See: http://www.caledonianrecord.
com/pages/local_news/story/
e318bb5a7

I wonder is same trap could be used to relocate Ayotte and crew?

Ok, now back from trollus interruptus, we continue our pursuit of the Truth

Anonymous said...

10:36: What kind of stupid fucking story is that???

And why did you post that here? You must work for Ayotte, you are so stupid. Is that all you got?

Because we are trying to get to the truth here. McKay brutalized and targeted Liko, and the STate is doing nothing about it.

Anonymous said...

10:48:

I posted the story as an allegory. You see, you are all in the woods, and you have heard the sound.

You are all speculating what it is, where it might have come from, and where it went. You have nothing to go on, but for months you will keep wondering, scratching your collective noggins, and wondering, wondering, wondering....

In the end, it will mean nothing, but it will provide something to do. Better than playing solitaire I guess.

(I am Trevize)

M. A. said...

10:30

The conspiricies I was talking about were in response to myriad hypothesis about my many other posting identities, not conspiricies about this case.

Now, as for the rest of you:

1) Yes, I DO KNOW that Dean expected that email to be kept private, hence my recent posts.

2) The silence around whether it's smart to burn friendly journalists is DEAFENING here.

Apparently, critical thinking on this blog is now heresy, how sad...

Anonymous said...

well m.a. i'll keep this short and concise as to your strong recommendation.
you answered nothing.
you make the same points over and over again week after week about this journalist and they go nowhere and are irrelevant.
As usual, u answer nothing on point and when you show up it is always with criticism of the bloggers and Chris, not the AG...u give lip service that you're behind 'full disclosure'...the rest of your posts are all critical of this effort. you infer you know the reporter is pissed off; big whoop. u didn't answer my long post and here's a short one for you to slam...u never post other than as 'm.a.' but you dont' deny your "light being" whoo whoo post. interesting. how's this for short. i don't believe you. i think you have a personal agenda other than the truth or you would have added something of substance somewhere along the way...
so your own lengthy diatribes amount to nothing much, except your low opinions of Chris King.
and the overt 'light being' mock in one instance.
ok, got it. i don't believe you.
i write long and slow specific searching thoughtful answer to your by now redundant whines about this week after week...out of my own misguided attempt at respecting your input, and to respond to a post in part directly addressing myself...but that is no longer necessary from this particular poster.

u don't seem to have any trouble with lengthy trollery, and have never commented about it, or anything else much except that chris dosen't have your resepct and should not be respected elsewhere.

i will keep future posts short. thanx for input.
i gave you a good long chance at some perspective and asked you simply to respond on point, or do something actionable about the burr in your hide. you came back to whine some more.
and the world dosen't need one more frightened chicken ass journalist afraid to write anything that would upset the staus quo...and YOU are contending that's where the writers' at.
i guess i'll give him a call one of these days, since you won't.
and if he's going to hide behind anonymity, yet address the blog and chris' efforts postively and specifically, and sign off clearly with all his information...well, i don't get what the problem is.
perhaps he need ask his editors what he's allowed to eat for lunch, think, and express...
the world needs writers that will step out with their personal and professional truths.
this is non-issue as far as i'm concerned and you are a one issue kinda guy...
two if you include 'light beings'

trevize, easy for you to reduce all the factual work here with a lazy philosophical slur, (ah it all means nothing & will amount to nothing)...yes, so why bother to get up in the morning; or come here where people are trying to right a deathly wrong amidst much arroance and many proven lies?
you were amusing with the outright trollery.

your pal wrote after you're last science fiction epic,
"you are freaky naughty freddie"
that was one of my favorite posts yet. truly did get a laugh out of that...

ooops, sorry if this is too long m.a. let's get back to protecting this nebulous writer and smashing chris.

Anonymous said...

did the guy lose his job?
was he demoted? did he get a wittle spanking from whoever runs that rag? why the fuss?
what about the meat and intent of his letter of great support? which m.a. does his best to deconstruct and turn against Chris. or maybe that IS the point, huh?

Anonymous said...

a "friendly" journalist would do his job as a fair journalist; not write a support letter that YOU claim was private, instead of anything substantive or balanced in the way of actual coverage in the press. or are you saying his editors are bought and sold monsters who kick their staff around like peons and tell them what to think and more importantly, what NOT To think.
if the guy's that weak he's not a 'friendly' journalist.
and if he didn't request anonymity, a point i made that you did not address, that would seem endlessly naieve. i don't believe you.
the first real reporters who break this in their repsective publications will find it career making, and not something to be ashamed of...they might even get actual journalistic respect in a really important publication, seems to me.

debby said...

I would expect that if Dean Shaloup had a problem with Chris, he would take it up with him personally. That would be my course of action if I was upset over it. I do think it is important for Chris to hold confidences. He has never repeated anything I have asked him not to. I am not a journalist but certainly have the awareness that if I am speaking to or making communication with any in the field of reporting, it would be wise for me to be extremely clear on what I am comfortable with being repeated. Even with that, I would know that I am taking a risk to divulge something I want withheld from the media.

If Dean is upset then I am sorry for him and do hope that he will make himself clear to Chris. Each of us has the right to keep our beliefs to ourselves certainly, but I do have to say that it saddens me if someone that has the power that Dean has would not want to stand for truth. If we don't have the truth then what is life worth.

What are people afraid of? Truth cannot harm us but only create freedom for us all. It is a sad day that even our journalists are fearful to speak up in today's world. This is a part of the same system that silences us all. Walking mutes....that is what many of us have been reduced to. To witness it in the very people that are supposed to tell us the truth and bring us the unbiased news is one of the things that I find the most destructive in our culture today.

The issue of the email is between Chris and Dean. I would hope they each would examine their own hearts in the matter.



NEW TOPIC

"Long ago, while walking in park near Franconia, I heard a scuffling sound in the woods. It was during the daytime, and didn't sound like it was made by other hikers."

10:36,

I thought you were going to tell us the true story of McKay hiding in the bushes as someone was walking on a wooded path at dusk. He jumped out with a gun pointed at the person. Fortunately, the person happened to have another person with them and a cell phone to call 911. McKay ran off........great guy....hero cop....to be put up for praise......I don't think so.

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I don't care if Chris makes a million dollars from any project he puts together regarding this case. I care that he knows it is important to uncover and tell the truth. Anyone willing to put themselves out there in the midst of a country that is silenced and beat down by a corrupt system deserves whatever goodness comes their way. I would begrudge Chris nothing. All I would ask of him is to keep the core focus on the truth and making true lasting positive change.

NEW TOPIC

personal opinion: There is nothing wrong with a-muss making long post. This has already been gone over in the past. If someone doesn't want to read it all they don't have to. It is part of his personality just like Chris is admittedly not so humble or any other personal trait the rest of us have. It does not harm anyone and their are plenty that read his posts in there entirety.

Christopher King said...

Wow, quite a stir over Dean.

I'll say this:

One: Go find a single other person who has expressed a problem in telling me anything confidential. I'll wait right here because you'll be looking for a LONG time.

Two: You should have seen some of the nasty emails I sent him 2 years ago when the NAACP and Ayotte's buddy Chief Dunn were lying and wailing on me.

And no, he as expressed no displeasure with me then nor has he now.

He may be a little uncomfortable but again I have no indication that he did NOT anticipate this "outing," and it is entirely possible he wanted to see this kind of dialogue.

Remember, there's prior history here of my publishing emails of which Dean is and was, well aware. Hell if I search the archives I might have published one in which his name appears.

And the Mayor of Nashua had no problem with me outing is private email to me either.

Lastly, I will say this about money: It would be ironic if I made a lot (most of which I would sit down with Liko's friends and decide what to do with it) because none of my life has been lived in a manner consistent with trying to make big money.

A photojournalist for a weekly? A reporter for a intermediate daily? An AAG? A young Civil Rights lawyer?

Please.

I maxed out at $100K doing telecom for a while and found that to ahem-- a King's ransome.

Namaste.

M. A. said...

Debi;

Regarding whoever does the long posts (they don't sign anything to it to identify themselves, not sure if that's a conceit to the fact that the posts are fairly incoherent or just lack of honesty), here's my issue; they keep refering to something called "light being" (I have no idea what's going on there), and suddenly a journalist that was supporting of Chris' work is called "nebulous". Are you kidding me?

Even you have called Dean someone who "would not stand for truth." So, you know you're better than him, huh? Pretty presumptious, isn't it? Maybe he actually needs conclusive evidence before he makes charges; did you seriously not realize that? He's writing for a newspaper for God's sake. He needs the evidence Chris is fighting for to be able to write a conclusive article that can get the average citizen fired up over this; that's the way the world works last time I checked.

People here calling everyone out for not being as in touch with "the truth" as the people here judge themselves to be isn't much better than fundamentalists walking around thinking they are God's chosen people, and that they know things no one else does. That's a dangerous way of thinking, and it creates the mindset that the people here are "elites", which is the type of thinking that we're suppost to be fighting here. I'm sure that point is beyond 'bong-boy', but you should know what I'm trying to say here. Chris, or anyone else, is not above standards of honesty and decency, but it seems like he gets a pass here because of the work he does.

And I haven't been exceptionally hard on Chris; the self-promotion, self-references all through this blog, the psuedo-elitist European sedan fetish, etc. That was all fine and, as you say, we all have our quirks.

But when he does things so blatantly silly as to expose the private thoughts of a journalist by publishing a private email, well, if you don't know what's wrong with that then I'll never be able to show it to you. It's rubbish to think that he should support "truth" and expose everything he believes on a blog. He could have been the one to smash the frontpage with this story once there was enough evidence to make it stick; that would have been invaluable. And if you think the fact he hasn't posted that here is evidence that it's OK with him, that's beyond naive and merely someone staying blind because they wish not to see.

PLEASE READ BELOW; THIS IS THE POINT:

And it's bigger than just this one journalist that's effected by this; imagine how many other sources that might have information, or how many other journalists that would have been willing to let Chris know something that would put another piece in the puzzle have now realized that he doesn't have the sense to protect his OWN supporters and allies.

Again, if people can't see this, then enjoy the blissful ignorance, and the chance that this story will be blunted by the foolishness repeatedly demonstrated here.

Go ahead bong-boy, post your nameless and naive drivel...

Anonymous said...

Bongs are GREAT. Clean cold Bong hits for everyone! its a bumper crop -- pass this to the left. Doctors Orders: Smoke two joints in the morning. Smoke two joints at night. Smoke two joints in the afternoon. (It will make you feel alright)

Anonymous said...

C'mon... are you telling me none of you guys like to rip tubes? I guess I'll just smoke this all by myself... peace

j. garcia

Anonymous said...

well u did hurt my feelings, m.a.
perhaps i deserved it.
you are supporting a friend of yours perhaps; in any case, what can we do from here? as a member of this forum could you personally apologize to him and explain that nobody meant him harm, and we are fighting hard for the truth, and have exposed a lot of it...he probably already knows that.
i'm sorry if he got upset or if Chris should have held his identity private.

perhaps both dean and chris should have communiated more carefully about this.
what do we do from here.
to stay on point, and be positive...

we don't really need info from journalists as they are getting it, very slow on the uptake as these things go, from us, and others in the community...and also from increasingly balanced news reports without agenda one way or the other...that just state the contentions in fact and action...
if mr. dean believes in the truth and importance of this issue, he won't let his personal discomfort with chris, whether intentional or provoked or merely a misunderstanding on one or both of their parts....he wouldn't let that stop him from following the story; caring, and doing his own work in regard to it, hopefully...
if not, someone else will...
but i understand you are upset about your friends discomfort, and you are also upset about because you think it sets a negative precedent for other journalists to post directly to chris with huge letters of personal support, or comments relating directly to these tragedies and destruction of evidence issues...

i'll write dean personally with a sincere private entreaty, representing no one but my self, and tell him our hearts and are facts are in the right place. that we are diverse group. and i am personally if he felt too exposed when that was published; if he does indeed privately feel that he was screwed by chris over his good faith effort...it was a very nice letter....
if he has suffered because of it; let's assume that your point had been made and heard and that it was a bad result that he should experience any personal discomfort because of what he felt were private communications...
there might be some small part of him that is still proud of chris, and that still stands by the basic tenants in that letter...

what can be done?
should we request that chris at least now remove his name from the bottom of the letter? i mean, what can we do now...what can we do in the future...
It's between Chris and Dean and i know nothing of their relationship other than what both of them have written here....
what are we supposed to do now? tell chris to be much more careful in these regards and double check before he attributes something supportive from a public or semi-public figure?
a formal apology?
what?
seriously...not to cover up, but to digest it, receive it, weigh it's merits fairly...and then what can we do now to keep moving forward, seriously.
this is obviously something you feel strongly about it...
i offer my support; please tell me what you think should be done at this point, but the posters or by Chris or by anybody...to move on with focus and solidarity, and make sure that toes don't get stepped on unfairly, IF that is what occurred.
bong boy.

i regret the whole mess.
what can we do from here.
bong boy

Anonymous said...

well, m.a. at 2:51 -

now you're pressing on and appealing to debby. you're stubbornly hanging on to your belief that dean's privacy was betrayed, with consequences known only to you; and chris is the self-promoting, self-referencing, bmw drivin' demon who offended.

i also read into your posts that you believe you have a better approach, a better plan, and better timing than chris to promote the liko/mckay story to a wider audience. i sense a competitiveness that may be driving your very focused criticism of chris.

your persistence in this matter is becoming annoying, precisely because several well-intended people have politely addressed the question you repeatedly ask.

debby advises the following:

"The issue of the email is between Chris and Dean. I would hope they each would examine their own hearts in the matter."

perhaps you will believe her.

it is impossible to help you broaden your perspective, nor is it necessarily well-advised to do so.

you're whining.

TL (summa cum laude)

debby said...

Even you have called Dean someone who "would not stand for truth." So, you know you're better than him, huh? Pretty presumptious, isn't it?


Each of us has the right to keep our beliefs to ourselves certainly, but I do have to say that it SADDENS me IF someone that has the power that Dean has would not want to stand for truth.

I do not know Dean or how he feels. That is the point. You want us to pick up a crusade that we don't have the info on. I never said I was better than him but stated my personal feelings. There is a difference. I did not claim it as fact or with superiority but make it whatever you want. I know who I am.


And if you think the fact he hasn't posted that here is evidence that it's OK with him, that's beyond naive and merely someone staying blind because they wish not to see.

Again, I do not presume to know this man but would hope he would have strong enough personal and professional boundaries to handle this himself. I think if what you allude to is true it is his responsibility to make Chris aware, not us that are not the participants. This is where we learn from one another.


If you are this man's friend then you should encourage him to have communication with Chris that is confidential - I am sure they would both learn something. I am not assuming you do know him as this could be about your personal feelings regarding it.

Anonymous said...

You need to stop supporting a Cop-Killer. It doesn't matter if an officer beat him down. You get it on tape and take it to Federal Court. You don't kill him in cold blood. Go fuck yourself you New Hampshire weirdos

Anonymous said...

PS- LIKO was a piece of shit

Anonymous said...

liko was a piece of shit that deserved to die. God bless floyd and the ag. It's over assholes let it go. Obviously no one is listening to you buffoons. A cop lost his life that is the only tragedy here.

Christopher King said...

God Bless Floyd, that's what AJ Boisvert must be saying too.

You're a douchebag, supporting a lying AG and a lying-assed multiple felon.

L8r H8r.

-The KingCaster.

PS: And to the "he beat him down go to the court" writer, things don't work that way up in North Country, trust me. No complaints against McKay were even considered, not even when he stuck his non-spec knife toward the privates of a seatbelted woman found NOT GUILTY of DUI.

Anonymous said...

All complaints against cpl. Mckay were considered by the cheif. Unsustained because cpl.mckay was well within his rights while upholding the law. When you get caught doing something, you always hate the catcher and automatically want retribution. Remember that people. 28 commendations. Flash them on YouTube king loser like you do your solo pat on the back from the hicks in Nashua. I have dealt with liko many times, piece of shit. He should have been shot 4 times then run over by an unregistered motor vehicle.by the way he stole those goldfish, but you already know that don't you king big mouth? Can't wait for your blog defending osama bin laden. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous said...

Quote from jackie mcglone: "I hope that dipshit chris king stays the hell away from my case. (fasano). Credibility is ruined at the sight of his face". Pack it in loser go back to Ohio. I wait you are hated there too. Try the hills of afganistan!

Christopher King said...

1:47

You think I give a shit what jackie mcglone or you think?

Think again, and try breathing through your nose as you do it.

It will be a first time on both counts for you.

-The KingCaster.

PS: There are about to be some negotiations going on in Ohio, since I know you're oh-so-interested.

Anonymous said...

Just making a simple point that no one wants you around. You are an obstacle by choice. Gotta go get some more quotes from upstanding citizens about the king loser. P.S stay out of the bury no one wants you there either. 80 BPD officers at Cpl. mckays funeral. I believe they are all well aware of your anti-police rants by now.head for the hills bitch and start speaking out on behalf of the Taliban. Take whipple with you.

Christopher King said...

Sorry not a fan of the Taliban, not a fan of you and still don't care what you think.

But thanks for the quote, it is the subject of a new blog post.

Tool.

-The KingCaster.

PS: Your biggest question is who plays me in the Bad Blood movie, ahem, 'cos a rumor has it that such a venture is forthcoming.

Forthcoming, use it in a sentence:

"The memo you promised KingCast is still not forthcoming, nor are you forthcoming about your identity because you are a creepy LE who hasn't yet learned to breath through his nose."

Besides, I tend to take Casey Sherman's viewpoint of me above that of Jackie McGlone, watch what he says in this video at his book launch, and read what he says in this excerpt from his book, that's why you're hatin' on me dude.

p. 212-213 "One could argue that the evidence to warrant such an (new) investigation against Floyd had been there from the very beginning. Kelly Ayotte has been and will forever be roundly critized for her rush to judgement regarding Greg Floyd. The Attorney General painted herself in a corner in her apparent need to paint Floyd as a hero. Had Ayotte shown the proper patience in the case, she would have discovered quite early the serious questions surrounding Floyd's alleged heroic deed." [KingCast observation: She is in charge of the investigation and such knowledge is imputed to her]

1. "Greg Floyd's initial testimony that he never warned Liko Kenney before he fired the fatal shot. (This detail was corroborated by Kenney's passenger Caleb Macaulay)."

2. "Floyd's bizarre behavior and statements," including killing as many as "43 people for the government" and current legal drug use vis a vis his conversation with Caleb "Sir you can't shoot me you'll be charged with murder," to which Floyd responded "I'm on medication so it won't matter."

3. Greg Floyd's penchant for violent behavior had been well established by police before the May 11, 2007 shooting.

"There is no question in my mind that Greg Floyd's actions in the case should have been examined more closely."


And of course the windshield bullet goes without saying but it's all wrapped up in the package and that's part of the reason why Casey took a picture of it that appears on p.114 with the caption: "The author was taken here by Chris King and Brad Whipple -- two men who refuse to let this case die."

p. 203 Sherman also writes "...one cannot deny that he has had his share of success. King was responsible for uploading the Sarah E. arrest video onto YouTube and he also released many of the Liko-Kenney--McKay case documents on his Web site. He has been spurned by many so-called legitimate reporters, but Chris King has been a tenacious advocate for the Kenney family and a major thorn in the side of New Hampshire law enforcement."

Christopher King said...

Here's your new post, thanks for the material.

Whenever things slow up around here I just wait for a tool like you to show up and voila!

New stuff.

It's KingCastic.

Wait until you see what I post tonight in addition to the Warrant Vote results.

-The KingCaster.

Christopher King said...

PS:

Credibility?

The U.S. Department of Labor has a different view of my credibility and if you have any questions about that you can go find Attorney Corey Surett.

Find out w'happened when I lobbied for overtime pay for my trainees you foul-mouthed little pig:

DOL Press Release

And of course Proskaeur Rose has a different view as well, that's why they took Derrick Gillenwater's First Amendment case all the way to the Massachusetts High Court, prompting settlement of the underlying case.

Look it up, fool.

-The KingCaster.

Anonymous said...

Creepy LE? I have done more for the citizens of Franconia in one day that you think you have in your entire false liko adventure. When people see me coming they feel relief. They see you coming they run the other way. You tool. My searches conducted are for lost innocent law abiding citizens in the white mountains. (search/rescue). Yours are for false info. Of cold blooded murderer. Don't ever compare yourself to me. Tool.

Christopher King said...

9:06

Man STFU I got plenty of friends in North County and I speak with them frequently.

As to the rest of your nonsense:

1. Send me the memo.

2. Show me a road named after Gearty.

3. Quit using my word, you tool.

I don't want to compare myself to you, you are a mouth breathing hater who has absolutely no clue about the value of Civil Rights.

-The KingCaster.

PS: And you sure do spend a whole lot of time up in here for someone who doesn't matter, don'tcha!

Christopher King said...

PS:

How didja' like the new post about you and your pal with her 18 FB friends, next to Casey's 1,700?

1:47
You think I give a shit what jackie mcglone (and her 18 Facebook friends compared to Casey Sherman's 1,700) or you think?

Boo.

Yah.

-The KingCaster.

Christopher King said...

So much anger from you.

Wassamatter, did Judge Cyr throw some of your cases out from Fox Hill Park?

-c

Christopher King said...

You just gotta' love a Democracy.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2010/03/kingcast-says-franconia-did-right-thing.html

09 March 2010
KingCast says Franconia did the Right Thing, exercised its Constitutional Freedoms to deny Russell Cumbee's Rte. 18 Bruce McKay Highway.

Sooooo..... the vote was in about 10:30 and it was about 90-70; on to the House next, and we know what it already said.

Here's your back story one and two, and that's all I need to say. Well not quite.... but I think Mr. Cumbee says it so much better than I every could because remember to him, I'm just "that annoying blogger....." He says:

"Newsflash, Free Speech really does improve people's lives."

So I'm like Paul McCartney, bro' listnin' to what the Man says..... the wonder of it all, baby... yeah yeah yeah... woo hoo....

Meanwhile enjoy this post about a questionable Judge in Boston.

posted by Christopher King at 8:08 PM