02 July 2007

KingCast returns to Fox Hill Park with a Right-to-Know request in Franconia shooting tragedy.

Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Right-to-Know request on Fox Hill Park.
To: police@franconianh.org, selectmen@franconianh.com, Kelly.Ayotte@doj.nh.gov, Jeffery.Strelzin@doj.nh.gov, dmullen@ranspell.com, Andrew@RightToknowNH.org, jamie.richardson@nh.gov......
Dear Police Chief Montminy and Selectmen:

...... I recently watched a 2003 Fox Hill park video......that having been said, I was drawn to the 2003 video because at the outset McKay (after refusing to identify himself to Liko) tells him "You are in a suspicious place at a suspicious time," to which Liko responds, "How am I in a suspicious place at a suspicious time?"

Liko subsequently tells McKay "You don't have the right to keep me here without a good reason."

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Since KingCast cameras were out at Fox Hill last week and neighbors told us they weren't aware of any trouble there, we thought we would ask your office to provide the following:

A copy of any and all police reports with Fox Hill Park as a nucleus of activity from the date of the park's inception, or for the past ten (10) years or however long your records go back.

While we were there, we also interviewed a well-respected community member who said McKay was a "bully" and went on video describing a young lady who McKay maced until she passed out on the front stoop of the village store.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter........

37 comments:

Christopher King said...

Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Right-to-Know request on Fox Hill Park.
To: police@franconianh.org, selectmen@franconianh.com, Kelly.Ayotte@doj.nh.gov, Jeffery.Strelzin@doj.nh.gov, dmullen@ranspell.com, Andrew@RightToknowNH.org, jamie.richardson@nh.gov......
Dear Police Chief Montminy and Selectmen:

I recently watched a 2003 Fox Hill park video involving Liko Kenney and three (3) officers who took him down to the ground and did whatever they did to him behind his mother's car and out of view of Bruce McKay's cruiser cam. This video was released just a couple days prior to production of a 2007 video in which we see Bruce McKay ram Liko Kenney's car further
back off the road, just prior to macing Liko and Caleb Macaulay with a plume of pepper spray while issuing no
verbal command whatsoever and strutting away in typically insouciantly arrogant McKay fashion.

That having been said, I was drawn to the 2003 video because at the outset McKay (after refusing to identify himself to Liko) tells him "You are in a suspicious place at a suspicious time," to which Liko responds, "How am I in a suspicious place at a
suspicious time."

Liko subsequently tells McKay "You don't have the right to keep me here without a good reason."

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Since KingCast cameras were out at Fox Hill last week and neighbors told us they weren't aware of any trouble there, we thought we would ask your office to provide the following:

A copy of any and all police reports with Fox Hill Park as a nucleus of activity from the date of the park's inception, or for the past ten (10) year or however long your records go back.

While we were there, we also interviewed Ms. Ellie who said McKay was a "bully" and went on video describing a young lady who McKay maced until she passed out on the front stoop of the village store.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Very truly yours,

Christopher King, J.D.
15 Beasom Street
Nashua, New Hampshire 03064
603.438.8017m
KingCast.net
Justiceforkids.net

Christopher King said...

From the 3 new audio files post (after the ethics complaint was filed)

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/nh-ag-kelly-ayotte-produces-three-3.html

We know Liko had his problems and issues. He could be extremely difficult at times. He was far from perfect. Part of the point in this whole thing is that very fact because McKay took advantage of Liko's weaknesses. Most abuser's do that very thing. No one is pretending Liko was an angel at all but the state attempted to use the very fact that he wasn't to dump it all on him. That is wrong.

I don't think there is anything wrong with people remembering what was good in Liko. What is important to us was the conviction that Liko had about our civil rights. He tended to fight against injustice and was angry, feeling very wronged. What we can do is learn from this to stand up for justice in truth. That is how we can make it right.

Anonymous said...

Dear Chris,

Thank you for writing this letter to Chief Montminy and Selectman. It is with deep sorrow that I watch how this situation is being dealt with by the town. In my opinion, there is an attempt to make it go away by "moving on". I do not see any true effort to hear citizens of Franconia. What I see is a resistance to any one that is unwilling to "move on" in a fashion that I can only describe as if we are to be sheep.

The problem in Franconia is a long-standing one and 5/11 is but the most harrowing symptoms that have arisen from the deep seated problems.

This community has not received one statement from the Chief of Police. It is the same as any problem with Bruce McMay was handled. It is being ignored and he is stilling looking the other way. That is the best possible explanation that can be given for Montiminy - a complacency and lack of leadership The worst explanation would be that he was 100% behind Cpl. Bruce McKay's style of policing and enforcing it under his guidance and leadership.

The Selectman do not want to do anything truly different either. They are well aware of Montminy's past behavior of taking no action over improper behavior in his PD. They need to step up to their positions and confront the issues or step down from their positions.


Who loves this town enough to do the right thing? Is there anyone in a position of authority that has more interest in the truth than looking out for their own political agenda?


Debby

Anonymous said...

Have the Selectmen responded to you at all in any of your requests?

Or have the referred your request to attorneys?

This board is a travesty. It's leader, Carl Beltz, has no desire to listen to the public or implement changes. The other board members "may" be decent people, but they have no voice.

My town is being run by dictators and policed by thugs. Nothing short of a revolution is needed.

The youth have known this for years, no wonder one of them took the path of violence. If it hadn't been Liko, it would have been SOMEBODY.

How sad to be so arrogant as to refuse to recognized a problem and implement a change, any change. We have to seize this moment, while they are exposed and vulnerable, it CANNOT be swept under the rug. Once they are allowed to regroup and close ranks, no change will take place.

We WILL NOT move on. Moving on will not heal. Makng revolutionary changes in SOP will.

Chris, Liko is shining the light, lead the way!

Anonymous said...

Is the safety notice that Mckay put out anywhere in the release of info?

WHY THE HELL WAS MCKAY TAKING PICTURES OF KENNEY'S HOUSE???

See:
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/
pages/local_news/story/370f5cf4a

"Following the conclusion of the trial, Kenney was visibly upset with the court, police and (witnesses who testified against him, some of whom) have since left the state for an unknown period of time as they fear for their safety," McKay wrote in the Officer Safety Notice memo he sent out just 17 days before Kenney killed him.

As a result New Hampshire State Police Troop F circulated an e-mail to its troopers advising of the potential for volatility should contact be made with Kenney in unrelated matters as there was an open investigation at Troop F concerning Kenney.

McKay concluded the safety notice sent to fellow officers, saying, "On April 25, two photographs were taken of the entrance way to the Kenney residence as it appeared Kenney had intentionally parked his vehicle in a manner that would block the drive and access to the residence. Kenney is known to own a .45 cal semi auto hand gun and a blow gun with steel shafted darts. Kenney has both a drug history and a history of resisting arrest or detention. This notice is for informational purposes only in the event an officer finds themselves working an incident involving Kenney."

Anonymous said...

"Following the conclusion of the trial, Kenney was visibly upset with the court, police and (witnesses who testified against him, some of whom) have since left the state for an unknown period of time as they fear for their safety," McKay wrote in the Officer Safety Notice memo he sent out just 17 days before Kenney killed him.

This case had nothing to do with McKay and there was only one reason for him to be there - harassment. We know the "Bode's cousin comment" to the reporter. People leaving the state out of fear is an ABSOLUTE lie.,

As a result New Hampshire State Police Troop F circulated an e-mail to its troopers advising of the potential for volatility should contact be made with Kenney in unrelated matters as there was an open investigation at Troop F concerning Kenney.

This statement is made based on Liko being visibly upset that the court system failed him? McKay sure set this up nicely for Liko to endure more LE harassment.

McKay concluded the safety notice sent to fellow officers, saying, "On April 25, two photographs were taken of the entrance way to the Kenney residence as it appeared Kenney had intentionally parked his vehicle in a manner that would block the drive and access to the residence.

What had Liko done to warrant being watched in such a manner? McKay had threatened him after court that if he made ONE WRONG MOVE he would have him. Who really was in danger ? I know for a fact that Liko parked his vehicle this way because there were obvious unknown tracks in his driveway. He did not feel safe and bolted his door at night.

Kenney is known to own a .45 cal semi auto hand gun and a blow gun with steel shafted darts. Kenney has both a drug history and a history of resisting arrest or detention.

Liko "resisted arrest" one time FOUR YEARS ago and he has a HISTORY of resisting arrest? Lots of people in New England have guns

This notice is for informational purposes only in the event an officer finds themselves working an incident involving Kenney."

McKay was covering himself for future harassment and to justify his abusive actions

How can any one think anything other than this man was an A--! He was an abusive man and it is disgusting that he was allowed to carry out his "REIGN OF TERROR" on the community.

Anonymous said...

I am still trying to find ANYONE besides the Floyds or ANY evidence (tire marks in the grass) that show Liko ran over Mckay twice.

So far it is only the Floyds who say this. Lots of people saw the incident but none saw how Liko's car came upon Mckay.

See: http://www.caledonianrecord.com/
pages/local_news/story/867504b55

Surely since this happened on grass, there must be pictures of the tire tracks showing the car went forward, then back, then forward and then back again when they rolled it off of Mckay.

And yes, they did roll the car off of Mckay as oppose to lift it

Statement show they tried to "lift" the car off of Mckay but couldn't until someone reached in the car and took it our of gear.

I recall original statements show that Floyd says he tried to position his truck between Mckay and Liko's car ... this makes no sense if Liko had already struck Mackay as Liko would not have backed up that far and if he did, then there would be no reason to believe he was not just leaving.

Anyway, I cannot help but wonder if Mckay shot Liko prior to him running over Mckay. It may not be the case but it is something worth checking into as Liko didn't "run over" Mckay. He was just under the front part of the car as if the car rolled onto him and not as if some angry person was running him down or didn't see him through maced eyes.

Remember that there is a bullet hole in the windsheild of the vehicle. So, somebody shot at Liko's car from the front. There is also a bullett that ended up in the barn so, somebody also fired in that direction which would be from the other side of the streer where Mckay was found dead.

Think about it, a body will not stop a car and a car will run over the body completely of somebody's foot is on the gas.

anyway ... just some thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Something that has bothered me is the timing of how the Floyds got to the scene so quick when they left the market after Liko and then stopped at the gas station (according to Floyd JR)

Well, listening to Floyd SR's statement, they never stopped anywhere after the market. Numerous times he is asked to describe leaving the market and even gives the route they used to leave and get to 116 and not mention of stopping anywhere else.

Very odd ... but then so are the Floyds.

Anonymous said...

Debby - I saw your comments yesterday. Thanks for sharing the info you do. I am no longer in the area and it is very helpful.

Deb or Chris or Anyone ... What is Caleb up to these days? Is he back at work? How is he doing? Is he seeing anyone to help with what he went through? Is he resigned to not venturing out of the house for fear of getting questioned by people?

I read a story in one of the papers that was all concerned with the Officers on the scene getting help with the trauma they saw that day ... those guys signed up this and showed up after. Caleb is barely an adult and was part of it all who didn't sign up for any of it.

Anonymous said...

How about McKay shooting through the windshield? Possible?

Anonymous said...

Oh sorry John, I just saw you made that comment earlier. After you brought it yesterday or the day before, I found myself wondering wh shot through the windshield.

Anonymous said...

Debbie:

Re. the inaction of certain selectmen.

The great thing about NH is that if enough Franconia citizens feel the same way you do (and I hope they do), someone might be willing to oppose the selectmen that refuse to address this issue in the next election.

The issue of community/police relations is important enough to run on. Someone with the time and energy might be willing to step up.

LS

Christopher King said...

Hi guys,

Several things:

1. Remember the quote from my first (non-ski) visit to the area: "I always knew they would find him dead by the side of the road and it it wasn't Liko it would have been someone else."

2. That bullet through the front window has bothered me for some time as well. There never was any plausible explanation for this.

3. I know for fact that the car was lifted once but dropped back down on McKay but have never heard any proof that Liko ran him over twice. Too bad that stuff was out of range of the dash cam, and likewise it is too bad that there is missing audio on that video. Of course there is a pending Right-to-Know request on the notes from the video house.

4. We will visit congress on this and we're too strong to stop. If any one of us gets hit by a bus tomorrow the others know exactly where the information is to assemble and go forward.

We are the new patriots, flying together in a V-Formation.

Semper fi.

*********

From the Woodward-Bernstein 3 new audio post:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/nh-ag-kelly-ayotte-produces-three-3.html

1:04 and TL, everyone:

Precisely. This issue will be visited to Congress, it's just a matter of time.

Just wait until some more developments come out that I am fully aware of that I'm not going to talk about just yet.

Some of it has to do with this Right-to-Know post:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/kingcast-requests-bruce-mckays.html

And I am interested of course in this Right-to-Know post about Fox Hill Park:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/kingcast-returns-to-fox-hill-park-with.html

These haters are going to get nailed either way, because once they produce the requested materials they will demonstrate the lies and coverup of Bruce McKay's and Franconia Selectmen and Chief Montminy's culpability which at least equals that of Liko Kenney, especially when you consider that these are all adults who had the power to actually change the environment in which many Franconians suffered needlessly.

The opening line for the letter to the appropriate Congressional subcommittee will be:

"To all concerned: The blood of Liko Kenney and Cpl. Bruce McKay is washing over the souls of the Franconia Police Chief and Selectmen after they ignored years of citizen complaints about Bruce McKay being a dangerous, threatening rogue police officer. NH AG Attorney Ayotte and Homicide Chief Jeffery Strelzin then compounded the matter by lying and withholding key evidence in the investigation into their deaths, in which a conclusion was reached within one business day, as noted by this email from Attorney Ayotte to Attorney X, another former AAG/DA as am I.......

We came together as American Citizens through the Internet (which must remain neutral, free and open) as Independence Day, 2007 approached to analyse the evidence, issue editorial comment to newspapers, file complaints against our Government and make the enclosed short film, "Franconia 5/11," which explains why the Franconia shooting tragedy is a microcosm for much of what is wrong in America today with overzealous police putting citizens in needless peril using the justification of the Patriot Act, the War on Drugs or 9/11."


In fact and by way of reference, a New Hampshire man named Bruce Lavoie was gunned down in his own bedroom in front of his young son after being awakened in a botched no-knock drug raid and the NH AG covered that up and exonerated all of the officers.......

[And of course we can all join in combing the comments sections for the best posts to print and best comments to share].

That's how we do it, as concerned citizens, born with certain skillsets and more importantly, Certain Inalienable Rights....."

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I might as well say this is most of the letter to Liko I am planning for Independence Day; the other piece I'm writing for tomorrow involves my new 'girlfriend,' a 90-year old spry lil' sister who is from near Lookout Mountain, Tennessee and who knew Roscoe Tanner and who founded the Ecumenical Tennis and Eating Club with her former husband, a USAF veteran.

I brought her a gosh dang Lobster Quesadilla (yeah, vote for Pedro!) on the al fresco deck at work yesterday and the manager and waiter just took my tables and watched us talk about tennis, life, love and respect for elders (as long as elders respect you back).

That means you, Bruce McKay.

I said a long time ago in this blawg that the tennis and motorcycle thing, and the (in)justice thing with the AG's office are all converging with a force and passion that cannot, and will not be, stopped.

Peace, namaste, aloha.

Anonymous said...

jp,

I wish I could give you a detailed answer as I see your genuine concern. Caleb is surrounded by people that love him and are doing their best to provide him with what he needs.

Liko has many other close friends that have suffered from this as well. They have lost a friend and they have the added concern of LE. You have seen LE posts here and also posts that let you know that some have had uncomfortable comments directed at them. They are also being cared for by family and loved ones.

It is important for LE to know that every parent that has a teen or young adult is sticking close to their children. As one poster said to a LE poster, "We are watching you, watching us". There is very little that is left unseen by the community at large as they get they must look after one another.

Is that not the most sad and pathetic place for a town to find themselves in? As far as I know, the inflammatory comments that could be perceived in a physically threatening manner have come from LE. The citizens are angry and upset that no one ever listened to them and are now pretending to listen to them but really want to carry on as usual. No citizen has made a threat that could be taken as intent to cause bodily harm.

You will recall that a certain young Police Officer made a statement about "dealing with" any of Liko's friends if they saw Liko as a hero. One must wonder, do they think they have jurisdiction over our thoughts as well?

The citizens are not the ones that are wanting to create a war. The citizens are the ones that want to stand up for justice and fair treatment. This should not be a big thing to expect from the Selectmen and Montminy. Apparently , it is.

I think many thought that the Chief of Police and the Selectmen looked the other way because they didn't perhaps know what to do either. In recent weeks and days it is sadly, starting to look like they don't want anything to change.

Christopher King said...

PS:

I have been in touch with Caleb and he's doing better. Of course I'm not going to elaborate on his plans in a public forum.

But I DO want to hear his friggin' interview and I'll get it, eventually.

Time for a phone call to the AG's office about this nonsense.

-c

Anonymous said...

Did other media sources request Caleb's statement? It would seem as if they didn't but he is the most important witness.

Anonymous said...

See:
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/
pages/local_news/story/370f5cf4a


John P and Debby -

I find the contents and slant of this article to be very disturbing. It confirms the SMEAR tactics that were set in motion by Mckay to continue to target and harass this young man. Mckay had the power and authority to do so. The "informational" notice to LE from McKay regarding Liko Kenney is pretty damning stuff. A set-up.

Per Debby:

"Liko "resisted arrest" one time FOUR YEARS ago and he has a HISTORY of resisting arrest?"

Herein lies an example of how LE uses any history of past behavior to condemn an individual and speak to his future behavior. Forever guilty!

wWich of us has the wherewithal to contradict such information....and in what forum, after several rounds with the court system? Regrettably, only now can Liko's story be pieced together.

Indeed, Liko knew he was being hunted, swallowed his fear, and avoided trouble. Stop #2 on 5/11, however, was partytime for Mckay....who failed to disengage from the war he waged on citizen Liko to his own demise.

Bill Kenney is quoted as saying:

"He said that for whatever reason, he believed that Liko lived in fear," West said in his report."
"Bill stated that about a month ago, he noticed that Liko parked his car about halfway down his driveway. He believed that Liko did this because of paranoia."

Liko's fear was directly in proportion to the power and authority wielded by McKay!

Let's see, shouldn't we be free to park our cars halfway, one third, or some other "suspicious" distance down our driveways and not be deemed to be paranoid. WTF?

Thank you, Debby and John P for "working" this cause/investigation on behalf of Liko, the citizens in Franconia and, hopefully, reaching communities elsewhere. It is always the fear of retaliation that keeps us in silence.

TL

Christopher King said...

Dear TL:

"It is always the fear of retaliation that keeps us in silence."

No doubt:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/kingcast-prepares-for-independence-day.html

But we keep on keepin' on.

-c

Anonymous said...

powers that be want to 'move on' because they don't want to change anything...or create a safe environment...they just want to get more development and money into the area...period...mckay was probably their designated clean up man...

they did everything to encourage his lawlessness and nothing to protect the citizenry...right up to this very moment in time...none of them are accountable...and none of them will be, except at the other end of questioning that they have to sumbit to if there was a subpoena or legal process...
they have no respect for the law, no outrage at the trashing of it, and no plans for anything but continuing to line their pockets and egos and reputations. since those are the only things they care about, it's really important it seems to me, to change the entire select board...and other representatives...and the chief...this is a set up for more trouble and they know it...they'll hire another mckay to keep people in their 'place'...they'll just come on with more brutality, tacit or overt.
if this were a real estate issue or something like important to their expansion of wealth or political career, they'd be up all night fixing it...
the state rep...all of them...useless...and the kids know it...how sad...
i hope people stay away from there in droves...
i hope the kids swarm the select board meeting (on camera) and tell them their 'agenda' is nonsense and self serving and they are complicit...actually, it's probably hopeless...kids there's your lesson; this is business as usual...they are serious when they say 'move along'...but they don't want to hear anything, heal anything, cop to anything, take responsbibility for anything...they are toothless and corrupt...
each one of them...state rep, police, select board...and the real estate people who control them, and every 'board' from the school board to whatever...
business as ususal...a little blood now and then no big deal, it's money.
tourists should know they are bringing their kids, and themselves into an inhumanly dangerous place, however nice the natural beauty...same with prospective home buyers...
not a safe place for you, your kids, or your grandkids...and not a place that will respond to law, a grievance or the concerns of their citizens...same old bullshit...kids got it straight from the start...and they've been done irreperable harm, which continues to this day...and will continue...
the way it works...corruption and deceit in the land of frost...de-fund everything...floyd will pop...murderers are free...welcome to franconia, and bring your family!! and spend lots of money!!!! hubba hubba...

hopefully chris can get some footage of these select people and/or chief of pd and state representatives...ala 'roger and me' type docu...
so at least the world will know...at least greater new england and the united states populace will know...
they have made a symbol and icon out of Liko now...
this could have been over and done with by now, except for some residual grief...their corruption and inept selfish posturing hasn't taken an hour off for years on end...this just a wrinkle for them to sidestep as they expand their little kingdoms...
what a selfish and awful place...
interesting the old man of the mountain crumbled to dust in the highway the same winter that mckay started this in '03...
more than symbolic...
Liko lives.
Liko lives.
tell everybody
Liko lives.

Christopher King said...

Police Chief Responds:

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Right-to-Know request on Fox Hill Park.
To: "Franconia Police Department" police@franconianh.org
CC: kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com

Dear Chief Montminy:

I am not aware that you are allowed to charge anything
more than reasonable copying expenses for this
request.

Please notify me today of any authority you have to
the contrary, but proceed regardless.

Very truly yours,

Christopher King, J.D.
KingCast.net
Justiceforkids.net


--- Franconia Police Department
police@franconianh.org wrote:

Dear Mr. King;

I am in receipt of your request for records concerning Fox Hill Park for the past 10 years and/or longer. This will take some time and will involve overtime cost to have an officer research this request.

If you would like to proceed with this, please let me know if you are willing to cover the expenses.

Thank you,
Chief Mark Montminy

Christopher King said...

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:42:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Supplemental note on Right-to-Know request on Fox Hill Park.
To: "Franconia Police Department" police@franconianh.org, selectmen@franconianh.org
CC: kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com, klandrigan@nashuatelegraph.com

Dear Chief Montminy:

On further review I believe this defines your obligations pursuant to RSA 91-A:

Access To Public Records

Any citizen may examine public records during the regular or business hours of the public body at its place of business. The right to examine the records includes the right to take notes or photographs or to make abstracts or photocopies. A public body may charge the actual cost of the photocopy, if a photocopy machine is used, or any other fee required by law.

If the public body maintains records in a computer storage system, it may provide a printout of any record reasonably described and which can be produced in a manner that does not reveal confidential information. With respect to data in a computer storage system, the public body is not required to compile such data into a format that does not already exist.

If the information has been compiled in a convenient form, the public body cannot refuse to supply it in that form, although the public body does not have to compile the information for the person making the request.

If a public body is unable to make a record immediately available for inspection, it has five business days to either: (a) make the record available; (b) deny the request in writing, giving the reasons; (c) give written acknowledgment of the request and a statement of the time needed to grant or deny the request.

Please advise if you anticipate on problems proceeding within the framework provided by the New Hampshire legislature.

Very truly yours,

Christopher King, J.D.
KingCast.net
Justiceforkids.net

Anonymous said...

You go, Chris!!!!

Anonymous said...

WAIT A MINUTE

Those records should be right at their finger tips. How else would Mckay know that to be a "suspicious area"?

Certainly they must have deemed it as this ... maybe he can just share with us that memo and what it was based on.

Unless the park closes at a certain time I cannot see how it would be dubbed a suspicion time and place unless their was some sort of memo regarding the area as parking in a parking area of a public place waiting for friends is not the least bit suspicious and would be described by most as very unsuspicious.

Anonymous said...

The entire earth is a suspicious place to a rogue cop on an ego trip. A cop like McKay.

ls

Anonymous said...

John P.

I can tell your for a fact that the park is closed from dusk to dawn NOW. It is on the signboard there, but it is not posted at the entrance nor is the signage reflective. You literally have to walk up to it and read it even in daylight.

If you view video 2 of the 2003 incident you can see that signboard and it does have what appears to be some kind of notice on it. What exists now is larger and in a different position on the signboard, so the current posting was not there in 2003.

So if the park was posted in 2003, why didn't McKay use it as his rational for what he did? And if it was posted, why didn't mckay know the laws in his own jurisdiction?

Anonymous said...

Seriously, who wouldn't become paranoid if anything you did could be considered suspicious and you were told, "I'm going to get you"?

Anonymous said...

Montminy wants to play hardball???

Hey Chris, ask Montminy what McKay held over his head? What made him let McKay take charge over the PD in Franconia.

What made Montminy dance to McKay's tune, heh?

Franconia is full of dirty little secrets that can be revealed about the people running the town.

Christopher King said...

Oh, they are going down.

John P's analysis of the windscreen bullet is essential because it shows that Liko may have already been debilitated when he allegedly ran over McKay twice -- which we have heard only from guess who?

The 49 year old guy who was a VietNam veteran.

Check it out:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/07/kingcast-says-we-need-full-autopsy.html

-c

Anonymous said...

Chris, just playing devil's advocate, is it possible that the windshield bullet came from Liko's gun? That in all of the confusion, he shot one bullet through the windshield? Is there any way of finding out if it's an entry or exit bullet?

Anonymous said...

The Kenney family has had very little contact will Bill Kenney for several years by their choice.

Anonymous said...

Something you all seem to want to ignore is that ANYWHERE can be a "suspicious" place under the certain circumstances.

People routinely call in "suspicious" activity when cars or people simply seem out of place on their street at odd hours for example.

You can claim that Kenney wasn't in a "suspicious" place or time at the 2003 incident but it's completely out of context. What seems "suspicious" to you 4 years later and what seemed "suspicious" at the scene may very well be two entirely different things.

The police are supposed to investigate what seems to be "suspicious". What's funny about all this is that the same people that whine about Kenney not being "suspicious" in 2003 would be whining about an incident that happened if the police failed to look into something that they felt was "suspicious".

Anonymous said...

Regarding the 2003 incident, Liko did not express himself well, but the essence of what he was asking is for his 4th amendment rights to be respected.

The following is from:
http://www.americandaily.com/
article/3124

What many American citizens fail to properly learn, and what many police officers often forget, is that in 1980 there was a major United States Supreme Court decision known as the United States vs. Mendenhall. Justice Stewart wrote a person has been seized within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment if, in view of all the circumstances surrounding the incident, a reasonable person would have believed that he was not free to leave. In that case the word "seized" actually means "arrested".


backed by the Supreme Courts 1980 decison

If I am approached by a police officer on the street who stops my freedom of movement I have every right under the United States Constitution to insist that I not be contained any longer than is reasonably necessary in order for the police officer to perform his or her official duties, under the law. I possess every right to verbally announce, "It is my Constitutional Right to not be stopped and held for any unreasonable time by the police unless I'm committing a crime in their personal presence (if a misdemeanor) or unless they possess "Probable Cause" that I committed a serious crime [a felony]. I have every right to ask if I'm under arrest, with a "Yes" or "No" response. And if the answer is "No" then it is my right to announce that I intend to go about my personal business, unrestrained. If I am held anyway, then according to United States vs. Mendenhall the officer has a very small period of time [we're talking just minutes here] to conduct his or her business before allowing me to proceed on. To detain me further constitutes a "seizure" of my person or I was arrested.

In fact, I am not even compelled to speak to a police officer if I decide NOT to. And the burden is upon them to explain my being stopped.

Every American needs to understand that a police officer is not permitted to frisk you just because they arbitrarily decide to exercise that power over you. To avoid confrontation it is wise to yield. But if they violate the law, then you should know the law well enough to bring real heat upon them.

In this day and age of the US Patriot Act and of in street police authority infractions of the Fourth Amendment, every American Citizen would be well-served to study the major Fourth Amendment United States Supreme Court Decisions on the subjects pertaining to arrest, search, and seizure.

Every person in America has the right to go about his or her business un-intruded by police powers. Those sworn officers who do not reverence our Constitution ought to not be wearing the badge.

Anonymous said...

"The police are supposed to investigate what seems to be "suspicious". What's funny about all this is that the same people that whine about Kenney not being "suspicious" in 2003 would be whining about an incident that happened if the police failed to look into something that they felt was "suspicious"."

YOU FAIL IN SERVING US EVERYDAY!
6:35,

WITH SO MANY DAMN COMPLAINTS ON McKAY YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH LOOKING INTO HIS "SUSPICIOUS" BEHAVIOR.

YOU ARE THE WHINING LITTLE BELLY ACHER! YOU COME ON AND WHINE LIKE A BABY IN DIAPERS! WAH,WAH,WAH,STOP CALLING OFFICER PEPPER A BULLY. HE WAS A GREAT AND HONORABLE MAN! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! WAH,WAH,WAH.

Christopher King said...

7:45a

I know.

6:35p

Fox Hill Park was no more suspicious in 2003 as it is today. Demographics, same, function of park, same.

Let's see the police reports for the park when they come out. Chief Montminy has another what, 3 days to inform me of what his department plans to do, pursuant to statute.

-c

-c

Christopher King said...

5:51

Not likely. Read from 6 and 7 July Junior Floyd's statements that his father shot the first time as the car lurched forward.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible that Liko noticed Mckay walk out of view of the camera and reach for his gun? He did just shoot a damn stream of pepper spray at both of them, Caleb said he couldn't see, but from the movie it appears Liko could. This would all make much more sense if Liko was firing in self defense, Mckay clearly appears the aggressor in the film.
If there really was some sort of arrangement between Mckay and Floyd(police scanner, witheld cell phone records, "hangin out" or Waiting? at the Market, Floyds non response to Liko& Calebs request for help and eagerness/ willingness to commit murder).
Perhaps Liko knew McKay was about to kill him.

Christopher King said...

Oh, believe me, I have thought of that.

With McKay you just don't know.

Didja' hear the story about the penis-shaped knife and the handcuffed female DUI suspect (who won her DUI case).

It's FUGLY.

"He said my lights weren't on but they were.... I was just trying to get to a lighted area but he was still upset with me, yelling at me because I didn't stop right away but it was snowing and cold and dark out."
"The knife was shaped like a penis, the top was like a spade on a card."
""What are you doing... I asked him 3 times."
"He did NOT even try to unbuckle the seatbelt."
"If he had ever stopped me again (after my complaint) I would call 911 and take my chances on getting to Littleton Police Department."
[EXACTLY WHAT LIKO TRIED TO DO but only going 800 feet to Tamarack]
"It was obvious Judge Cyr was annoyed with Bruce McKay when he dismissed my DUI case and he told McKay "It's a quantum leap from probable cause to DUI."
"I filed a 13 page report with Chief Montminy and I have a copy of it for you... but I never got a response from that."
"McKay saw my daughter was driving because he saw us get in the car."
"I told my daughter 'don't roll down your window this guy is nuts....' and 'Bruce you know I wasn't driving you saw us get in the car...."

Addendum:

"I want my charges annulled from my record because Bruce lied in court. I wrote 'time limit..20 minutes' on the arrest paperwork but Bruce told the ALS hearing officer that HE wrote it and the officer believed Bruce because he was a cop."

Sound familiar?

It is, because Attorney Troy Watts said McKay did the same thing, as I told everyone waaay back on 24 June 2007.

For you folks who wonder why Liko shot McKay, keep in mind that Liko knew these things. His friends told me these things but I haven't mentioned them until now because the right people didn't have the trust in me to forward the information. They sure do now, however, and the Cause of Justice will move forward like a rocket. Or is that "as a rocket????"