14 July 2007

KingCast announces checkmate on Russell Conte, NH AG's Ayotte and Strelzin, and Shooter Floyd in Franconia shooting tragedy.

It took a few weeks for me to figure it out, and I started getting close in the last post, but now in addition to the first post putting Attorneys Ayotte and Strelzin on actual notice of false statements, here is the follow up:

I put Attorneys Ayotte and Strelzin on official notice that they have committed unethical acts of deception against the American public as noted in this Boston Globe feature and elsewhere:
"As McKay stumbled across the road, bleeding, Kenney ran his vehicle over the dying officer, Ayotte said."

The problem is she also told the Globe:
"The elder Floyd drove his Tahoe into a spot between McKay and Kenney as a shield and told his son, who is in his late teens, to run to the officer's cruiser and radio for help."

That doesn't work ab initio (read: right outta' the gate, from the get-go, from jump street, whatever vernacular you please) because Floyd Senior wasn't even driving so Kelly can crew didn't even have THAT right. Moreover, according to Floyd, Liko had already run the officer over in the first place, so there's no way to drive his Tahoe "into a spot between McKay and Kenney."

Add that to Caleb Macaulay's observation that Floyd had a gun trained on them "before we even got on the road" at p. 687 (accord Junior's statement at p.745 that his father shot at the car and it hit Liko and the car then hit McKay) and the bullet hole in the windshield. Then add to that Floyd's clear cut lies about actually saying something to Liko before shooting, and allegedly shooting through an open window and helping Caleb move out of the way -- which is a lie because we know Caleb is picking glass shards out of his scalp during the interview and the unsigned yet "Official report" notes at p.26 that the window was "in fully up position" but glass was "in fragments" -- and you've got yourself a Congressional investigation and an Amended Bar Complaint.

Not to mention the selective redactions I have seen on some documents where Floyd is menacing Caleb with the gun, and the misrepresentations made to me by Attorney Stelzin regarding the presence of other audiotaped witnesses that were provided only after I served an ethics complaint of which he HAD to know of or he is ultimately incompetent. And if he is that incompetent then you bet all of the files should be online for citizen review. And of course if he intentionally misrepresented to KingCast, the same result obtains.

29 comments:

debby said...

But let's examine one thing: Conte says that Floyd's truck was in between Liko and McKay but actually it was not -- it was further South (I've seen the crime scene videos and pictures and diagrams), but that's not as important as the fact: If he was indeed maneuvering his truck in such a manner to protect McKay, then Liko had not yet run McKay over, although Floyd says that he approached Liko and Caleb only AFTER he saw Liko strike McKay from the back with his car TWICE and allegedly pin him under the car. Read p.7 of the Official (yet unsigned) report.

So not only does that not work with the truck placement, it does not comport with what Floyd Junior said either. That's because Floyd is a liar and a sociopath, and Attorneys Ayotte and Strelzin are covering for him because he killed a cop-killer. Whoops. Deceitful government actors below, include Russell Conte and Attorneys Ayotte and Strelzin.



Good post, Chris.

It's a bit bizarre for someone to think you or we are losers because more has not been accomplished to date. Sooo much has been accomplished thanks to many here that truly care.

We are slowly seeing the fruits of our labor and that is the most important thing. Keep up the good work...time will reveal all.

peace,love and liko light

Anonymous said...

"liko light" ??!!

WTF?! What's "bizarre" is that you are all trying to turn someone who's own family described him as a "loose cannon", a violence prone punk who had assaulted and ultimately murdered a police officer, into some kind of cult hero.

At least admit it. The only version of "justice" that you people will find acceptable is what you've already pre-determined it to be. The all-knowing, all-seeing King tells you what the facts must be and you blindly follow like he's some kind of pied piper.

ANYTHING, that supports the state's version of events or offers an alternative explanation or simply casts doubt on King's speculation is immediately dismissed. King has already told you who is guilty and who is innnocent. The rest of you just keep patting each other on the back in your little mutual admirationn society. Anyone with a different point of view or anyone who dares to agree with the state is derided and insulted.

Wake up and take a look around. You've been sold a bill of goods that nobody else is buying.

Anonymous said...

well foro, it's like this...
you are tranparent...
and your belittling little series of hate attacks based on lies means nothing but laughs at this point...

you insult hundreds and hundreds of community members who never post here, but read every word, and knew the truth before Chris, or the general public at large, (outside of folks in a few of these villages) even knew of the event...or the name of Mckay...or Floyd...or their evil and violent expressions of continued hatred for children, young people and women (his chief, but not his exclusive targets)
but given the choice, which he usually could dictate for himself, (to the SHAME of an incompetent police chief, and select board)...bruce mckay preferred to work out his perversions on those he could easily dominate...
look where that can get you...
you silly thing.

well small laughs of derision and recognition, as there's nothing too funny about supporting vigilante justice, as you and the attorney general's office are doing...
and nothing too funny about infesting the culture in a pit of lies, mistrust and exposure to violent maniacs...
we won't tolerate it...
with or without Chris' GREAT and IMPORTANT advocacy...we wouldn't, and will not, tolerate it...

that would only aggravate those petrified of truth, or paid to try to posion the well here on the behalf of powerful and evil liars in state government...your ignorance is stunning...
your vicious advocacy and jealousy are quite expected...we've been experiencing it since day one...
and some of us have been active before even finding about Chris' efforts on behalf of truth in law...
but never u mind little trollie...

the typical 'straw' men argument...you postulate a sceanario that's untrue, and/or filled with misConeptions and purposeful misPerception...

...then of course, you argue your own falacious points with yourself and answer in such a way that denigrates and mis-portrays the important work done here by MANY MANY posters, and many diverse people in the communities...
self congratulatory, mastabatory, smear tactics that are easy to see thru...
i notice that you, foro, or whomever of his friends, or Ayottes minions, are endlessly drawn to this blog to throw down in an anonymous fasion...
to distract, which will not work; disrail, which will not work; and distort, which will not, and has not, been working...
so you'll have to eat your own silly shenanigans...

IF u read Chris' blogs, you'll see that he has been a brilliant editor and clearinghouse and notary of a library of facts that keep compiling...
all pointing to mckay's horrifying record of vioence and cruelty, especially in regard to specifically targetted 'enemies' he perceived as easy to attack...from macing and beating small women, (again, over a simple traffic stop)...
check out other officers record in these regards...
but you won't; you are hear as a forro troll, and that's okay...we are used to it...
No one here is Chris' clone...Chris did not create the monster that was mckay and IS floyd...Chris tracks, but did not create Ayottes series of horrid lies...
...you are essentially calling many hundreds of people in a villages you know nothing, about people you know nothing about, mere puppets...
YOU are the one with the Chris obsession...HE is the strong public activist that threatens your deep desire to continue the myriad of lies and illegal activies from Ayotte's office...
...the populace knows the truth...and good people of conscience and intelligence, many good people, drive and support and INITIATE their own research, analyses, and hours, sometimes weeks, of hard research and disclosure...
we expect many more examples of this kind of trollery...and dismissive, ignorant and ugly spirited misrepresentations...
we are used to it...
we see it coming right from Ayotte's office...
to even suggest that the residents of the affected villages, from certain police chiefs and other official entities, as well as from dozens and dozens of citizens who HAVE posted here, from all walks of life and professions...including attorneys who have had to deal with Mckay in court procedings, and have spoken of his violence, deceit and disregard for the law...
and many people of every description who know obvious lies, purpopseful misrepresentations and vicious rovian/atwater attack techniqes favored by those who idolize yellow journalism and fairy tale spin; the very same stuff that allows these violent rogues to walk among us...

you are beaten already...
the facts are the facts...
any one of us, including Chris (God forbid) could drop out of this effort and there will still be hell to pay from all those 'officials' who propagated and set up the big lie...
foro, you never ever answer anything on point...
but you are so fascinated with Chris, and jealous of him, that you cannot but help but sneak in your jibes...
which is your right...
show your ignorance to the world, reflect the ignorance, stubborness, predjudice and stupidity of those who insist on remaining blind and continue to endanger the communities...all of the communities...children of all ages, adults, professionals and blue collar, law enforcement, military or not...
everyone knows a stark lie...except paid idealogues and vicious trolls who not only insist on being blind (you're not really blind, you are just dishonest and making a stand for your masters, like an evil little brownie scout...
you are transparent...

love and light to Liko
love and light to all...
and TRUTH and JUSTICE for ALL...
i know that burns your butt...the actual law is sooo inconvenient when it actually is made to work in service of the people, eh?

so thanks for the comment bozo...the robots are the crowd that read the spin, and live by it...not the MANY hard workers who care enough about their communities, and their country, and humanity, to involve themselves in this work...
buzz off foro...
anyone who reads the facts knows the score...anyone who does not, does not matter...
i'll not debate with you...
the case has been made, and keeps getting made...
and thank goodness for Chris' efforts...and thank goodness for the spirit of Liko and a very special bunch of young people up here...people of great spirit, great intelligence, and great, sweet humanity...
u don't want the facts...
and that's fine...but the 'officials' will HAVE To respond, and/or be relieved of duties, by the entire community...and believe me, this effort, only a few weeks old, had had a huge effect on bringing truth and light to many illegal distortions and corruption and destruction of evidence...major crimes...you don't care about crimes...you care about your pissing contest with a guy who actually achieves something in life, and does so with great spirit, empathy, intelligence and humor...and honor...he's been up here and directly contacted all the many who were happy to meet with him, as we would with even you...bozo von goebbels, (my standard name for all yellow-journalism, bought and paid for trolls here)
...
so troll away bozo...you only verify your own great ignorance, slanted viewpoints, and supreme jealousy for a spontaneous, and fairly organized, and increasingly EFFECTIVE force for truth and fairness and full disclosure under the law...
which even protects folks like you, who don't mind endangering OTHER People's children...which makes you quite the perpetrator yourself...

you are really gonna have a stroke in these coming months when the story extrapolates out, and hugely, and the guilty are made to pay a public price...
so get used to having your ass burned...
we are already used to being insulted...
and seeing Chris pilloried here every day...
as well as any others you can steer your muddled, vicious and "bought for" opinions upon...

troll on...taunt on...insult on...matters not...not a bit...
adds fuel to our holy fire...and adds heat to the asses of the select board, the fpd 'chief'...and unfortunately, continues to degrade and devalue the very many good officers, and military members up here, who unlike floyd, do not strut around lying about their service...
and do not strut around casually murdering citizens under the protection of a dirty attorney general...soon to be relieved of her duties...
so thanks u freakin' ignoramus
;)
anonymuss

Anonymous said...

First off, I posted "Anonymous 7:55" not "foro". I know you might find it hard to believe but there are plenty of people who don't agree with King and his little band of conspiracy theorists like you.

"Chris' GREAT and IMPORTANT advocacy ... he has been a brilliant editor and clearinghouse and notary of a library of facts ... the strong public activist ..."

Hey loser, I hear that WalMart has a sale on knee pads this week. Sounds like you could use a few pair.

"...you are so fascinated with Chris, and jealous of him..."

Hardly. I merely stop by to remind all of you clowns that there are lots of people who disagree with you. Jealous?! Oh yeah! I really want to be professionally disgraced, barred from practicing my chosen profession, driven out of one city as an absolute laughing stock within the legal community and reduced to nothing more than another "keyboard commando".

If you really want to see the strawman arguments, misconceptions, misperceptions and yellow journalism that you accuse me of, you're at the right place! This blog is packed full of little else.

Christopher King said...

Whomever is posting and accusing me of not having my facts together is blinded by the red mist of hatred and contempt for us for exposing the Truth, using the governments's own documents.

We have cut to the bone, right through the gangrene meat of the state's case and now the haters are goin gto come out and attempt to discredit us. That's only natural because as Mr. Gump reminds us, *sshole is as *sshole does.

We have a community of people here, including at least one actively involved in Franconia politics, who has used my email distribution list to tell Kelly she's covering up as well, and that document I will use when KingCast goes to court (see the last paragraph relative to that).

If this was all about how Liko Kenney was wrong, there would be no need for any Reconciliation Panel, duh.

In sum:

"No one here is Chris' clone...Chris did not create the monster that was mckay and IS floyd...Chris tracks, but did not create Ayottes series of horrid lies...
...you are essentially calling many hundreds of people in a villages you know nothing, about people you know nothing about, mere puppets...

YOU are the one with the Chris obsession...HE is the strong public activist that threatens your deep desire to continue the myriad of lies and illegal activies from Ayotte's office...

*******

So then, anonymous dectractors, remember even Kelly's friends who live 150 feet from me and with whom I enjoyed the 4th of July fireworkds aslo think McKay's actions were appalling and know there is more to this story.

So then, since you are so sure that I am wrong, then you will sign on to this post and identify yourselves and note that you support me in having the full interviews of everyone, and the AG files on Floyd, put on line.

Otherwise you are disingenuous and pathetic blow-hards and kelly's got you wearing the knee pads while she rests a cold Foster's on yer noggin.'

That's what's real, Greckenschpiel.

debby said...

Hey Chris,

What do you think about featuring Attorney Troy Watts letter to you in support of this case and his professional experience with Cpl. Bruce McKay again? I found it very interesting. Perhaps the newcomer(s) would as well.

Thanks - at the very least will you re-post it on this thread?

Chris and a-muss,

Hey, Do you remember the movie, Sybil? The one with multiple personalities? That was creepy wasn't it?

Anonymous said...

Who is the shirtless guy in the picture?

Anonymous said...

Chris King, you are the man! Thanks for your hard work. you are truly an american hero! You make NH a better place to live. go get 'em

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Who is the shirtless guy in the picture?

2:40 PM


None other than the famous "hero" Marine, Gregory Floyd. His son is next to him.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Who is the shirtless guy in the picture?

2:40 PM

that's gregory floyd, being carefully and very intensely debriefed by a team full of careful and experienced homicide detectives after muderering Liko Kenney, and
endangering, assaulting and terrorizing passenger Mr. Kenney's passenger, Caleb, with death...

mr. floyd demanded that Caleb pick up Liko's gun...

Caleb told him, according to his testimony in AG reports, something akin to 'if i touch that gun you're gonna kill me...u can't shoot me that's murder'

to which mr. floyd (shirtless in the picture)
responded very crafily and reamrkably lucidly, something akin to 'they can't get me for murder because i'm on psych drugs'

for the direct quotes in both regards please see the AG report and related testimony...

mr. floyd might have been tracking the 'action' on both his scanner, and certainly in person, where mr. floyd and his son, gregory floyd jr. testified in great detail, to seeing Mr. kenney and Caleb at the market moments before...

...mr. floyd's vehicle was 'investigated' according to police statements, but they find 'nothing of evidentiary significance'

NOTHING...not a market receipt, description, inventory of contents, scanner, nothing...

so i know it looks like a casual picnic...but that is Mr. Gregory Floyd, convicted police assaulter, convicted PCP seller, and someone known commonly for making overt death threats by gunfire to many, even meter readers...
his son has made similar threats to school children...

Mr. Floyd did backup his bravado by killing Mr. Liko Kenney, in a sucker bait surprise attack by firing through Mr. Kenney's windshield and hitting him in the head...

...this caused the now deceased Mr. Kenney's car to run over, crush and tear open Officer Mckay's vital organs after Mr. Kenney shot the officer, directly after Officer Mckay had rammed Mr. Kenney's stopped vehicle violently; and upon seeing Mr. Kenney's hands up open and empty in compliance, maced him directly in the face,...

Mr. Floyd claimed to the police that it was his 43rd kill, and that he had been special forces Marine officer in Viet Nam, which is impossible, unless they were drafting 6 year olds...

He then proceded to give an alarming amount of conflicting testimony including many outright lies...
so here you see Mr. Floyd under intense Franconia police department scrutiny and debriefing for what could have been murder, attempted murder, and several other serious charges...

he was never arrested or detained, his vehicle contents inventory was never released by the police...
nothing, nada, zip...

so apparently he had nothing in there...aside from a scanner, maybe drugs, prescribed or not, maybe firearms, tho he was disallowed to use them because of his violent history as a felon...
maybe a receipt or good from his trip to the market and the village store, to allieviate public concerns that perhaps Mr. Floyd and Officer Mckay had been in touch and contact about these events...or not...
...we haven't received phone records, or scanner reports, and somehow, mysteriously, the audio was gone and the release video highly truncated and suspiciously altered and presented...

Mr. Floyd's vehicle...nothing of evidentiary importance according to franconia police crack detective work...
nothing....
two violent killings in a small village, one of which committed by Mr. Floyd and NOTHING inventoried in his vehicle released...
no pictures, no reports etc...
tho someone else might have photos and interesting testimony in those, and other regards, that might be surprising to the Attorney General...who by the way, waited some six weeks before releasing any carefully crafted, but highly unprofessional and contradictory 'official reports,' tho her final determination was made within several hours of the incident...and many overt lies that conflicted the Attorney General's own eventual report, were immediately released BY The Attorny General Ayotte's office and by her pesonally within HOURS of the event..

so back to the shirtless Mr. Floyd & the careful investigation of this felon in the immediate aftermath of him sucker punch shooting of a local citizen...as you can see here in the pic...

no report on his litany of psych drugs, not the number or duration, nor his diagnoses...nor ANYTHING at all in the vehicle...
...
more complete vehicle inspection reports are done if an auto is abadoned, or ditched out, or if someone is under suspicion of any kind of activity that might be considered improper or illegal...
interesting that...

but Attorney General Ayotte totally cleared him in after a long intense professional investigation of all the facts in evidence a few hours later...

...garnering immediate 'hero' status from well meaning Marines and good hearted citizens everywhere, who had no idea he was spitting on the sacrifice of 50,000 real actual combat Marines...

so that is Mr. Gregory Floyd in the picture...
getting the thrill of his life, and a lifetime of happy memories...
but at least you get to see a crack team of police investigators really taking the situation in hand professionally...

Mr. Floyd remains at large, and is to be considered armed and dangerous...
...he will not confront you directly...tho he may sneak up on you and kill you, or anybody else, due to his cowardice and false bravado...and he can do this with impunity, because he is on medication...
have a nice day...

Anonymous said...

and oh yes, one more thing please...
Mr. Floyd had threatened a responding officer from the Sugar Hill Police Department when an officer arrived and demanded he drop his weapons...
"easy son i'm faster than you" said cool hand luke...i mean the ostensibly very confused and psyche drug intoxicated Mr. Floyd...

so immediately after this direct threat to an officer, and with a written reported history of threatening other officers to their face with death by gunfire, (assuring them he was a great shot and knew that they might be wearing vests, so that he would cleverly shoot them in the head instead)

so, obviously, there was no need to do much more than hang around with a scratch pad in a field and jot some stuff down as the Floyd belched out whatever contradictory and conflicting stuff that has now been thoroughly documented...

gives u a secure feeling knowing that monty is chief, and everything's in control eh???

The Easton police chief, and others had written warnings suggesting that Mr. Floyd was the kind of felon convict capable of arriving at a school to deliver automatic weapon fire...so...no need for the franconia police department & appointed Attorney General Ayotte to do anything other than make him an immediate hero in the press...and start sucking political points...

...thinking the mountain community too backwards and powerless and cowardly to pick up on any of these lies, or object to any of these highly non-procedural anomolies...

good samaritan passerby combat special forces marine hero protects shot police officer...is what the spin we were supposed to dance to...

If it weren't for Mr. Floyd, Officer Mckay would have at least been buried with his organs intact...
tho Officer Mckay was still alive until Mr. Floyd arrived on the scene to 'help' ...assuring that Mr. Kenney's car, now being piloted by no one...would crush the rest of life out of the concious Mckay...

so if you needs a hero, and you're in the white mountains, worry ye not...
we've not only got excellent and professional police, a wonderfully proficeint and honest attorney generals office...
but citizen help from convicted felons and drug dealers on loads of really out there drugs...

so come on up!!!
and don't forget to bring the kids!!!!!

perhaps some real estate is in your future???

my suggestion would be to have as many children as possible, so that if the franconia police and the state thru young poodletician Ayotte, decide to slowly torture and murder one of them, well, you'll have spares!!!

debby said...

Where is Caleb's actual statement? Have any of the media sources released his statements? I have read several statements from others but have not seen his yet.

Yes, there is nothing consistent about Floyd and Jr.'s statements. So they never check his vehicle? Extremely odd and most likely out of proper procedure that these cops keep stating over and over to us. I am going to go back and look at the video because I had someone tell me they thought they could see a gun across his window on a rack.

debby said...

If it weren't for Mr. Floyd, Officer Mckay would have at least been buried with his organs intact...
tho Officer Mckay was still alive until Mr. Floyd arrived on the scene to 'help' ...assuring that Mr. Kenney's car, now being piloted by no one...would crush the rest of life out of the concious Mckay...



If Liko was dead (or incapacitated) when the car ran over McKay due to a gunshot wound from Floyd....who would be considered responsible for that?

Chris, have you seen McKay's autopsy report? Did the shots fired by Liko hit any major organs? What type of internal damage was done by the car?

Christopher King said...

I've got Caleb's statement and have pulled a lot of it and posted it here.

Of course there is more.

I think we can host it but it will need to be a pay site because of the file size. Also, it will be part of the KingCast litigation of course to have them put it on line because of all the material discrepancie.

Meanwhile, here is what Nashua Telegraph Columnist Dean Shalhoup had to say:

Blam to the haters. I mean, what next "Oh that Dean Shalhoup, he's a real wacko...."

debby said...

I know for a fact that Chet Thompson thought McKay was way out of line and it was completely excessive. He is the one that said the rocks were flying 30 ft. out from the vehicles. He said he had never seen anything like it in his life.

HOW LAME CAN THEY BE TO REFUSE TO RELEASE HIS STATEMENT? They just look sooo bad by doing this kind of thing, along with the screw-up on Caleb's tape.

Anonymous said...

One tends to wonder where is the blood test for drugs and alcohol on Mr. Floyd Sr. and Jr?

Would not this be in the complete autopsy report of Cpl. Mckay as well?

These are essential basic facts that should have been tested and recorded, as they were for the sober Liko Kenney I would think.

They certainly tested Mr. Kenney and did report finding cannabis 'residue' in his bloodstream...

One wonders what was in Mr. Floyd's bloodstream. What was in Cpl. Mckays? And also, in Mr. Floyd Jr.?

Please don't report back that these essential tests are unavailable. That would go beyond incompetence and into a rather heinous possibility of official corruption.

How does that information get subpoenaed properly?
Why wasn't it released already?

This seems suspicious in itself. The more I think about this, the more suspicious I get in regard to these factors.

Cpl. Mckay left standard operating procedures far behind, and if I'm reading these reports correctly, he, additionally, had a long history with Mr. Kenney that was well known in the area by the Francona Chief of Police and the local governing boards, and there had apparently been some kind of agreement, consistent with standard operating procedures anyway, that Mr. Kenney was well within his rights to request a back-up officer, especially since the issue between these two men was well known.

So the officer was in cleasr violation of standard operating procedure, and also, of course, in specific regard to this peculiar incident.

Was he drunk?

It is suspicious that Cpl. Mckay's tests for alcohol and drugs in his system has not been released.

Most law enforcement professionals across the country in the various commentaries I have read in newspapers and other resources from the internet have analyzed Cpl. Mckay's tactics as extra-procedural and inapproriate.

Does Cpl. Mckay have to be dis-interred to follow up on this essential matter? Hopefully not, my goodness.

I would imagine, however, that a complete and thorough professional autospy was performed, especially in a case such as this.

Cpl. Mckay's full blood work and autopsy must be released to get a better perspective on this.

With Gregory Floyd Sr. it is of course, an absolute no-brainer that he should have been blood tested shortly after he shot someone to death, especially when his testimony overtly mentions his pharmaceutical condition as a possible release from responsibility for significant gun play that evening.

So where are these analyses on the Floyds and Cpl. Mckay? Which doctor? What hospital? What physician conducted the autopsy on Cpl. Mckay? Who is he or she and where is the complete report. Can they be questioned immediately to help clear these matters up more comprehensivley?

Their abscence is very highly suspect from my analytical frame of reference, and one wonders about the efficacy of law enforcement practices in that town, and state.

Anonymous said...

7:55am Anonymous said...

"liko light" ??!!

WTF?! What's "bizarre" is that you are all trying to turn someone who's own family described him as a "loose cannon"



I suggest that you're careful giving quotes from family members and be sure of who you're quoting. The person you are quoting is ONE person in Liko's family, who has been diagnosed with mental illness, so make sure you know who's standing with you...and choose your team wisely. We're NOT IMPRESSED!

As for standing with Bruce MacKay, you must think that assaulting woman is within the law? Bruce MacKay made a point to talking about it to a young woman who happened to be in the police station one night...telling her that she could come visit anytime she wanted...OH YA, that was a man of justice. He said he wasn't sure that he would be able to continue being a police officer because of his assault issues. WTF! He was hitting on a young woman, bragging about beating his wife! He shouldn't have even been allowed to be a cop much less share the earth and a badge with cops that are good. What did this guy stand for? Good question!
After he as split up with his wife he lived with another woman, who had to move out of town to get away from him. The way I see it, the fiance he had NOW has a second chance she would have just been another abused woman in the world looking for a way to escape his clutches.
He had also filed for bankruptcy and stiffed people in the community...just another notch in his belt...just more people to fuck over. This guy had a lot of issues!
We need more restrictions on the cops so we can prevent this from happening in the future. Clearly MacKay had personal issues that carried over into his professional life.
The citizens of Franconia need to stand up and take the town back...we need to get our town back and not let the cops take over....the problems with MacKay were much farther reaching then the day of 5/11...Franconia, this is our time to stand up and be noticed and heard! VOTE FOR A POLICE REVIEW BOARD!

br said...

6:20, the AGs report did include the result of blood test on McKay. The only thing noted was caffeine.

I do completely agree that Floyd should have had a blood test as well, especially in light of the fact that he is so ignorant about illegal substances that he thinks that PCP and THC are the same thing.

Now -- can you IMAGINE the uproar if Liko had had PCP in his blood? yet no one seems to care that Floyd tries to misrepresent PCP as just being anothehr name for THC?

Anonymous said...

as has been pointed out several times on this and other threads, you have all already decided what the "facts" are. reading these posts is almost laughable were it not for the serious subject matter. you cherry-pick your "facts" from rumor and speculation and ignore whatever doesn't fit your agenda(s).

you've made yourselves the investigators, judge and jury. like any kangaroo court however "truth" isn't your goal unless it happens to coincide with what you've already decided "truth" is.

debby said...

I am re-posting this again to remind others that "we" are not the only ones that know who McKay was. He played dirty.



Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:34:50 -0400
From: "Troy Michael Watts" nh.lawyer@gmail.com
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To: kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Franconia, Fear & Loathing
Mr. King:

Thank you so much for devoting so much quality, time, energy, and rhetoric in relation to what's going on in Franconia, not to mention the Constitution. I knew both Liko and Cpl. McKay through my law practice in North Woodstock (you probably drive past here every time on your way to Franconia). Less than a year after I started my practice, about four years ago, Liko contacted me in relation to his dealings with Cpl. McKay. I met with him for about two hours, and was left thinking that there was something very fishy going on up there in Franconia with Cpl. McKay. Nevertheless, I always try to give the unknkown the benefit of the doubt. I thought Liko might have just been being a little paranoid, or may have skewed the facts a bit as clients on the receiving end of police work so often do.

I now know better.

I never ended up taking Liko's case.. for two reasons I guess: 1) I was a new attorney and deep down didn't feel I had the intellectual or credibility horsepower to start suing the police right out of the gate; it wouldn't do him justice.. and 2) my client-to-be had no money... I spoke with Liko's parents in Hawaii on several occasions, and they seemed to want to help, but it just never happened.

Years later, I represented a young lady who was stopped, arrested, and subsequently maced in Franconia by McKay, trampling over the fourth amendment in the process as usual. I still have that video. It is appalling.

When we finally got to the hearing on that one, I came to terms with McKay regarding a plea. I got to the favorable plea by telling him that I absolutely thought that the judge needed to see how "lawful" the arrest was. He caved on the plea real fast. The guy was incapable of diffusing a spent matchstick, much less an actual traffic stop with a dangerous 110-pound blond woman.

Then, we're standing up in front of the judge, about a half-hour later, McKay tells him we've entered into a plea that was far worse than the one we negotiated! Worse, he'd already drawn up the revised complaint and submitted it to the Court for approval without me seeing it. I was REALLY pissed! I've never had anyone in a prosecutorial funciton do anything but EXACTLY what they say they're going to do when it comes to a negotiated disposition. Apparently I was so pissed that the judge threatened me with contempt... Another first!

Long and short of it, I wrote a long letter of grievance to both the Chief of the PD and to the County AG's office, explaining the principle that the system depends on the integrity of the officers of the Court.. that McKay didn't get it... yada yada yada, which resulted of course in them saying basically to pound sand, but at least I got it off my chest.

In sum... I wish I had gone after him then and gotten him more on the public's radar screen, and have vowed to never again avoid a pro bono case that screams for needed justice. The reason I'm writing? I pledge any support you may need in pursuing this one to the end. Briefs, research, letters, whatever. You are da MAN!!

--
Very Truly Yours,

Troy M. Watts, Esq.

Anonymous said...

7:13 PM,

Do you know HOW silly you look?
VERY.

debby said...

Anonymous said...

as has been pointed out several times on this and other threads, you have all already decided what the "facts" are. reading these posts is almost laughable were it not for the serious subject matter. you cherry-pick your "facts" from rumor and speculation and ignore whatever doesn't fit your agenda(s).

you've made yourselves the investigators, judge and jury. like any kangaroo court however "truth" isn't your goal unless it happens to coincide with what you've already decided "truth" is.

7:13 PM


This sounds like something that needs to be sent to the Ag's office, not posted here. They are the Kings of cherry-picking. I believe we could create at least 1/2 a dozen possible scenarios based on the Floyd's accounts alone. The AG is using one chopped up, pieced together version over and over again - verbatim.

Anonymous said...

7:13
you're not going to make a point? or refute a point?
or give an analysis rebuttal on point?
you're just gonna be as 7:22 puts it succintly...VERY silly...
u silly boy now...

make a grown up post on point and be responded to honestly and fairly along with all fellow citizens who wish to contribute anything at all...
i think you're a little cabal of one to three trollies frankly...
think of something, go ahead i'll wait...
la lalalaaaa
ttteeee dummm dummmm....

sigh...
r u ever gonna make a point?
we get the slam...we get it...this is just nutz fabricating jellybeans in the cookiechip factory...
ok ok...lol

r u EVER gonna make a point or join the discussion in a rational, respectable and intelligent manner?
no you are not monkey...
we smell banana breath a thousand miles away by now...

to others who might be new here...we are just citizens...kindly read the history...any input from any quarter is welcome and will be treated respectfully if presented respectfully, the no one expects you to come in kissing ass...
... regardless of the points made or opinions stated...u will be heard, and responded to with respect...in kind...
we get trolls...
we get the huge silent majority who will not put their careers and computers on the line reading here as well...
...and we get criticized in good faith and respond in good faith...
i use the 'we' only subjectively, because i am one citizen just as you...just representing my own opinion and observations borne of personal experience with in these villages, and also of a lot of hard private personal, exhausting research and reading...and listening and video analysis....it's called patriotism in the face of oppressive law breaking vigilante justice endorsing racketeers appointed to power...

one lone opinion is all this is...but i have found others to learn from here...
read the histories and posts here...there is some foolishness...but there is great heart and comparatively HUGE difference from the official spin, the media spin and special interest hate groups posing as advocacy groups for their own political and job security issues....

still, make a point...do the work...share an opinion or a criticism...
we only get one or two dooks who write garbage jabs all the time...varying opinions are very welcome by me anyway...and believe me new englanders, especially mountain folks, would not hold their tongues in GREAT numbers, if anyone had a real point to make on issue, and wanted to peacefully engage in a spirit of reaching inward and outward toward the truth...
and i think you would find the people up here very courteous and very slow to be rude without direct and intentional provocation.

trolls are afraid of citizen power, and the amazing intellectual currency and how lame the professionals look in the face of even amateurs being forced into forensics and study working off the AG's intentionally corrupted report that puts us in a vigilate justice position...

and honestly, tho this will seem disrepectful, you don't have to be that awful smart to know when proper police procedures are used, or when there is a problem...a little problem unchecked leads to great disruption, civil unrest, good police officers caught up in a bad system...and dangerous lines being drawn in the sand...in people's minds...and that's where it starts...it ends up in tragedy...we are about peace...and TRUTH IN LAW...

we by far have the guns and numbers but we're not that kind of people...we are interested in legal, compassionate American jurisprudence as written and as conceived in great great spirit by our founders and our lawmakers;
there are rogues amongst the officals...that's old news in every culture...ferreting them out so as to decrease their direct danger to the community is a bit of a task, but the lawmakers were hugely aware of this; a unique part of the genius of the American experience...borne of throwing oppressors off the back, with commoners taking the issues on...
PEOPLE FROM THESE VILLAGES FOUGHT IN THE GODDAM REVOLUTIONARY WAR...AND WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING THEIR GRAVES AND PUTTING FLOWERS THERE AND WORD OF PRAYER...you better knock off the shit in concord i'm telling you...
monti hires an out of state psycho abuser, gives him a gun and carte blance in the face of a dozen years of complaints and brutalities in his personal and professional life...ALL to be documented soon...MOST of which have been aired out preliminarily...
... and we are cleaning out the garbage now...
...legally and appropriately, in the face of great corruption and many an evil and intentional lie...

also very many, very very respectable professionals (increasingly) here...

you will find out about them, and other huge evidentiary blocks that the attorney general has no access to, or possession of...to her great surprise purty darn quick,
...as legal matters develop appropriately) i don't mean to be oblique...but we are in a snake pit, and NOW is the time for the 'official' disclosure, and we are telling the sad political story of organized poodleticians working in a very ugly and unlawful manner...

you've seen the kelly heroes show...any relation to the actual truth is accidental...
as THESE pages prove...again adn again and again....


I can't speak for Chris...is colorful personal resume as film-maker, what he likes to eat, etc...is there for those interested...he had this blog before the incident...but is providing the only really open uncensored format for this discussion in the entire nation....and his activism is very much appreciate by me...and others, obviously...but it's about this incident, and the corruption and illegality and the brutality that fostered it, and continues it...

as for Chris, people write about him so he becomes the subject...they are usually harsh critics...i like the guy; but it's about this incident now...and he knows that and his hard works proves it every day and night...

i'm not obesesed with him like the haters who slam him...

...sometimes he speaks so loudly for the truth, and with great spirit, but mostly i admire him because he will take the issues directly ON...do the filings personally, make the phone calls personally...write the emails and responses and petitions personally and post them openly, and the responses from officals, openly...and immediately...
puts himself on the firing line directly...and is ready for the fire...
if there is anyone else who wants that job, just start doing it and shut the heck up...but it will mean you take a high profile advocacy position with officials who hate your every fiber for exposing them, and would kill you if they could get away with it...literally they would...
careers are gonna tumble, people are gonna get desperate and real mean real quick...
we are not naieve...
we know we are dealing with big money poison pushers and their political appointees...and they have connections with the biggest and most corrupt and evil big power money in the nation...so, we know what the trip is..


or make your own blog and shut up...
i'll post there too...jeeesh....

so...he has a big personality appropriate to face down, courageously and publically, the most powerful government officials in the state...
who have big personalities also...only they are mean spirited and oppressive...
Chris has been on both sides of the bar and he's only a big issue here for people who are jealous...say anything...you're not going to get slammed just for showing up...of course...
this troll is a troll...
and has nothing to say...
except the usual...
chris is this; we are that...we are this...chris is that...'we' are not, "we" are..."he is a" he is the other" etc...sickening...intentinally diverting...but we're onto it...have been...expected...easily dealt with...

he dosen't make a point and that makes a huge point does it not...
he shows up all the time to NOT make a point, afraid to engage...
or in a rapid flurry of sequential posts from the same boro von anonymyno
...it's just the same old tired dirty trick squad moves everybody is really tired of...
anonymuss

debby said...

True anonymuss, about getting tired of the nonsense but also quite bored by it is well. It is ridiculous as the poster said....downright silly.
I know from my own experience with Foro that he creates "different posters" but even if there are more than him, you cannot tell them apart. It isn't just what is said but the tone, personality and verbage are identical. They might as well be the same person if their not. Too much kool-aid, I would say.

Anonymous said...

foro will be foro...we know one when we see one. you know the old saying ~ if it walks like a duck...

on a light note, i purchased a KONG STUFF 'N COMBO FUN PACK ASSORTMENT with "wubba' fetch toy" for my dawgs at costco this weekend - just $19.!! i'd say my FUN PACK is a much better bargain than chris'! chris, we need to exchange yours for one that isn't defective and incomplete.

:) TL

Anonymous said...

a-muss,
excellent posting, as ever. you'll forgive my lightheartedness this morning, please, as i hadn't realized the gravity this day will bring.
my naive question(s) to chris on a different post are completely addressed here, with the bottom line being corruption and illegality.
your writings move from an emotional and passionate presence here to detailed logic and fact. we are fortunate to have your wise counsel to complement chris' amazing and brilliant advocacy.
right on!
TL

Anonymous said...

The people on this site needs some chlorine in their gene pool.

debby said...

foro von boro needs to go burrow somewhere deep into hiding for being such a little sneaky weasel.

Your wisdumb will not be missed.

Anonymous said...

ty so kindly TL, i hope this post dosen't hurt your very appreciated comments regarding me

to 8:58
8:58...
well we've been trying to order bulk chorline for some time now, but apparently yo mama drank it all up the night she screwed the devil eventually producing...ta daaaa......borox von goebbels...and his merry band of uh...one.

poison gas always on goebbels mind...a dedicated chappie...and huffer apparently...chlorine freak...almost as good as pcp...or sniffing paint.

well, you've finally added something substantive to the procedings...finally...and ty...
cuz i was wondering why the banana breath had a tint of that swimming pool stank...
thanks for clearing that up!!!

and do keep coming back with your incisive wit, and in depth analysis of the evidence and over-view...you elevate the discourse exponentially...

it's not really nice to have a battle of the wits with the unarmed...
...but, hey clorox von goebbels...haaaaa bwaaaaahhhaaa....
cloro-x von goebbels...
bwaaaahhahhahahaaaaa
ze chlorine kid...

if you don't train your dog how to heel and take basic commands, it makes for an unhappy little pup in the long run...
so, i'm just walkin' the dog a little...

keep em comin' clorrox!!!
don't u ever stop now...
it wouldn't be the same without you...someone's got to keep things stupid, and you are really doing well...
come on baby, bring it bring it...cloroxx von goebbels donchu stop now...
i KNOW u can get mo stupider than that...
i have faith in you...
i don't care what others say...i have faith in you..
your pal,
anonymuss
_____________
so clorox, i'm guessing you don't want to see floyd's blood test the night he had his 43rd kill...
the navy seal that never was...
the combat marine that never fought...
the viet nam special ops vet that never was there, unless he was ten at the time...

the sharpshooter that sprayed countless shots in every direction to hit liko once from a yard or so away, a sucker punch stationary target who was counting on you to be a mitigating presence and a witness to the abuse...so after being maced in the face point blank; you shot him in the head when all he ever tried to do, was avoid this kind of horrible stuff...

so he never thought of taking an easy shot at your considerable bigass target; why do taxpayers pay for your food and everything again?

what exactly is the reason you're a big landowner with a big late model tricked out truck AND simultaneously sucking welfare....so you can stuff yourself with the food we buy you...and buy weapons...
WHY IN THE HELL HASN'T MONTY OR THE STATIES BEEN TO HIS HOUSE TO SEASRCH EVERY CORNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR FIREARMS??? and bodies...

AND THEN ACE SHARPSHOOTER, AFTER ONE SUCKERBAIT SHOT TO THE HEAD AFTER SEEING NOTHING OF LIKO's weapon and saying NOTHING TO him...and killinghime...
and then u once more point blank sneak attack from calebs window, probably aiming for Liko who ducked and you got your second shot into Liko, his neck this time i think...

what a hero...you were in no danger...plus your actions killed whatever was left of the conscience Mckay...
he had to lie there and get his scrotum ripped open and his head crushed slowly...
the most horrifying death imgaginable...because you HELPED him...semper fry...
Mckays last minutes of agony at YOUR hands...catching some rounds wasn't bad enough?
you had to rip open his balls? whoa! that must get you off!! parteeeee

then you LIED to the police...about pcp, about seeing liko's gun in the process of either 'jamming' or 'reloading' you LIED about giving him a warning...the AG knew but shes a liar too, a match made in heaven...someone should photoshop a pic of kelly and floyd together...
kellys hero call it...
you were never in any danger or you woudln't have had your ass in the line of potential fire and you damn well knew it....

and the AG knew it was a lie from the getgo...she wasn't that sloppy; she was on a mission...to boost her own career...but she didn't think it through...and destroyed it instead...

Liko never saw you as a threat floyd, you unbconcionsable rat bastid...which made your murder easy and unchallenged...YELLOW baby...keep a hidin'...you were an easy shot for him; but he didnt' want to hurt anyone...and didn't consider your a murderous snot...
so i guess the lesson is...shoot first, ask questons never....thanks kelley!! we get it now!!!

if we weren't decent, honorable, spiritual people with regard for human life, even in your pitiful murderous lying brutal tax sucking scam of a life...you would have been confronted...

anybody can shoot anybody baby...
that's your game, not ours...
on the other hand...you are assumed to be armed and dangerous everywhere you go in these towns for the rest of your life...your little lying rat kid too...
.,..but you can't legally carry a firearm...
so, you better hope the prison psych ward gets you before your karma does...

hey that's a lot of land and a nice new truck with all the trimmings for a guy on a scam along with hid kid...boy, you've brought that cruel little threatening monster up to ebe just like pooopah eh???

cause if the kind goodhearted and sensitive lovely spirited people up here, in this paradise before you and mckay and your ilk started drifting north, having made a lying mess out of your lives everywhere else...
and if these decent young people, whom you have robbed of their friend...and hardened a part of their hearts inexcuably...you'd be toast.

i still believe mckay and floyd knew each other and were in contac...

u know, in the last minute of his brutal abusive life, mckay made that ten point turn reallll sllooww...as you approached...real slowww...no hurry now that liko had complied..no hurry...so he made those turns realll slow...and didn't make his move until you got yourself positioned and stopped your vehicle...
coincidence?
like he had NO idea who the hell you were, right?

you are so busted dude...
and went along with AG Ayotte's vigilante endorsements,
if he wasn't so traumatized by the abuse and macing and ramming, and if he had suspected that peaceful villages have become breeding grounds for murderous scum, he would have easily taken you out, and really should have...

now you will be 'taken out' legally...and end up in some cush psycho prison...you're phoney insanity defense will not keep you out of detention and conviction...
feel the fear greg...
and look at the mess of a monster you turned your kid into...you should be ashamed, if you had any moral compass...

but you do have at least one supporter...
floyd meet clorox...
clorox, meet floyd...

just come clean you lying sack of shit, and mercy will be shown you...
it's just about too late floyd...
the AG will drop you like a hot potato to save her own crooked ass...
and the whip is gonna come down...

meanwhile, i was thinkin'....a late, but love filled valentine to our most precious and pristine spirted young people in in our villages...

We love you madly...
and will never abandon you again.

...3rd verse kills!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CcuGVqrzGhg
________________

clorox von goebbels...
__________

liko on 'o3 to mckay:
why are you harassing me?
are you going to rape me?
are you going to kill me?

floyd, you will not get away with murdering that sweet boy...your kid's an accessory...u r transparent...pea brained coward...