15 July 2007

Hot off the presses: KingCast and Nashua Telegraph Columnist Dean Shalhoup call NH AG Kelly Ayotte on the mat for Franconia shooting tragedy cover up.

Anti-Christ (think: NSA wiretap) Verizon FIOS is on the fritz so I pimped Lucky #7 (musical accompaniment courtesy of Nirvana) on down to Circuit City to use their customer service laptop for this post.

Enough already. I have set forth enough facts in the last two/posts posts alone that I will never regret outing Dean on this one because this case is heinous enough that it compels complete disclosure from everyone involved. The email will be a part of my public policy argument when I sue Kelly for full disclosure.

I read Beverley Wang's latest diatrible against Liko Kenney in today's Nashua Telegraph and decided it's time to start dropping hammers. I've heard a Kennney family member helped our out of the mud at Liko's funeral. They should have left her there to wallow because I'm sure she's used to swimming in something of like texture with worse odor; she is a bought-and-sold little brown-noser mouthpiece of the establishment and couldn't spell Fourth Estate if you spoon fed the letters to her from a can of Campbell's saltiest.

The first hammer is from well-respected Nashua Telegraph columnist and feature editor Dean Shalhoup:

Subject: RE: Missing witness statements in Right to Know materials?
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:57:47 -0400
From: "Dean Shalhoup" dshalhoup@nashuatelegraph.com
To: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com

Hi Chris, thanks much, appreciate it!!

Been enjoying your posts on the Franconia thing...i saw a lot of issues the first time I heard about it. I was particularly taken aback by some of the quotes from various law enforcement personnel, canonizing this apparently rogue cop as well as some looney tune with a loaded gun who stopped by and got a chance to shoot someone...and I quickly got tired of hearing MacKay being called a "hero" ... To me, cops are "heroes" when they're killed trying to preserve law and order or saving a citizen's or another officer's life, or getting trapped in a burning building in an effort to save lives...MacKay doesn't sound much like a hero to me, that's for sure.

Not that I condone violence and killing people, but it appears that just as many people could call that Kenney kid a "hero" for stopping a wildman cop from taking a few more lives before he got canned or retired...

Anyway, I ramble a bit--ha Keep up the good 1st Amendment work!
dean

Dean Shalhoup
The Telegraph
603.594.6523
dshalhoup@nashuatelegraph.com
www.nashuatelegraph.com

"I hold the stories of life itself, A record for future ages. The joys, the tears of passing years Can be found among my pages."

[The original KingCast email is below to all of the media]

This is getting very interesting:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-asks-nh-ag-kelly-a
yotte-if-all.html


I'm not going to say what I have heard from the locals (and remember, it is a small town) but you better believe there are some serious questions here.

Peace.

60 comments:

Christopher King said...

From the Checkmate post, linked in this piece at the word "two:"

"So then, anonymous dectractors, remember even Kelly's friends who live 150 feet from me and with whom I enjoyed the 4th of July fireworkds also think McKay's actions were appalling and know there is more to this story.

So then, since you are so sure that I am wrong, then you will sign on to this post and identify yourselves and note that you support me in having the full interviews of everyone, and the AG files on Floyd, put on line.

The haters come in here with nothing substantive to say and with no brains, no citations to the record, no NOTHING."

Come look me in the eye, shake my hand, meet the KingCast and Franconia crew and feel the power of the people, and the Spirit of Liko, at Court.

Namaste.

Christopher King said...

And in my email tip jar from NH Insider:

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Username: hnevas
Message: I think Howard's a VietNam vet...maybe he can explain the psycho jarhead's claims adn military service.

(If he gives a decent answer I may stop calling him Howard)

Loved your website King....as they say it's spot on!

Christopher King said...

Step to me now, haters.

"Oh, that Dean Shalhoup.... he's a wild one... he's nutso!!!"

Negroes, PLEASE.

Anonymous said...

This is awesome. We blog, in part, to create a document that generations from now people will read. My goal is to perhaps give a moment of relief from all the hate, maybe find the softer side of the human comedy in things. Who knows, decades if not centuries from now people will read this blog and say, "I really dig Horn Dog's take on things". Perhaps they will bow down to the Bow Wow. Yeah. That is the ticket.

There is history being written here. Chris' hanging onto that reflects the not so casual recorded document this blog is. I am glad to lift a leg here.

Anonymous said...

Chris,

Well, this must have been a great email to open up from Dean Shalhoup!!!!! So many people know how bogus this is and as I said the more the State pulls, the more the citizens are going to stand up. Enough is enough.

This letter made me think of an earlier one you received from Attorney Troy Watts. I posted it below.





Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:34:50 -0400
From: "Troy Michael Watts" nh.lawyer@gmail.com
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To: kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Franconia, Fear & Loathing
Mr. King:

Thank you so much for devoting so much quality, time, energy, and rhetoric in relation to what's going on in Franconia, not to mention the Constitution. I knew both Liko and Cpl. McKay through my law practice in North Woodstock (you probably drive past here every time on your way to Franconia). Less than a year after I started my practice, about four years ago, Liko contacted me in relation to his dealings with Cpl. McKay. I met with him for about two hours, and was left thinking that there was something very fishy going on up there in Franconia with Cpl. McKay. Nevertheless, I always try to give the unknkown the benefit of the doubt. I thought Liko might have just been being a little paranoid, or may have skewed the facts a bit as clients on the receiving end of police work so often do.

I now know better.

I never ended up taking Liko's case.. for two reasons I guess: 1) I was a new attorney and deep down didn't feel I had the intellectual or credibility horsepower to start suing the police right out of the gate; it wouldn't do him justice.. and 2) my client-to-be had no money... I spoke with Liko's parents in Hawaii on several occasions, and they seemed to want to help, but it just never happened.

Years later, I represented a young lady who was stopped, arrested, and subsequently maced in Franconia by McKay, trampling over the fourth amendment in the process as usual. I still have that video. It is appalling.

When we finally got to the hearing on that one, I came to terms with McKay regarding a plea. I got to the favorable plea by telling him that I absolutely thought that the judge needed to see how "lawful" the arrest was. He caved on the plea real fast. The guy was incapable of diffusing a spent matchstick, much less an actual traffic stop with a dangerous 110-pound blond woman.

Then, we're standing up in front of the judge, about a half-hour later, McKay tells him we've entered into a plea that was far worse than the one we negotiated! Worse, he'd already drawn up the revised complaint and submitted it to the Court for approval without me seeing it. I was REALLY pissed! I've never had anyone in a prosecutorial funciton do anything but EXACTLY what they say they're going to do when it comes to a negotiated disposition. Apparently I was so pissed that the judge threatened me with contempt... Another first!

Long and short of it, I wrote a long letter of grievance to both the Chief of the PD and to the County AG's office, explaining the principle that the system depends on the integrity of the officers of the Court.. that McKay didn't get it... yada yada yada, which resulted of course in them saying basically to pound sand, but at least I got it off my chest.

In sum... I wish I had gone after him then and gotten him more on the public's radar screen, and have vowed to never again avoid a pro bono case that screams for needed justice. The reason I'm writing? I pledge any support you may need in pursuing this one to the end. Briefs, research, letters, whatever. You are da MAN!!

--
Very Truly Yours,

Troy M. Watts, Esq.

Anonymous said...

Oh please keep repeating those same posts a few dozen more times. It's such a great debating tactic!

Off to bed now. All you good little clones need your rest.

Anonymous said...

We thank The Foro von Boro for spurring us on to be even more determined to bring the truth out.

Many thanks to you.

Christopher King said...

Look:

Tomorrow comes a demand for the specific complaint against Bruce McKay as authored by Attorney Troy Watts and as sent to Chief Montminy and the County AG liason and the responses thereto.

And an ongoing demand for copies of the Reconciliation questionaires.

All public record, thank you.

************

I've ridden motorcycles over 150 miles an hour. Hell, 130 IN THE RAIN.

But that's not as scary was what I'm doing now by challenging my -- our -- Government for the accountability they allegedly owe and provide us.

Namaste.

Christopher King said...

One day I'll have time to blog about cool chicks like Suzanne Vega or Beth Orton.

In September, Suzanne is coming to Somerville Theatre a block from where I used to live.

I'll be checking on Ms. Orton as well. She's just BAD.

-c

Anonymous said...

chris, let's try to get floyd (sr. & jr.) blood work after the incident...

the guys a felon for PCP sales, as well as acts of assault etc...

don't even tell me that the franconia supervising cops, like monti, are so lamely incompetent, or so stupidly evil, that they'd miss this in a double homicide...

don't even try to tell me they're that stupid, lame or evil...it would be impossible to believe...

it's mighty relevant info...

AND OF COURSE...WE KNOW THERE WAS AN AUTOPSY ON MCKAY...
i want to find out who did it and i think the entire report should be exposed, and the individual doctor should be questioned...

...we have it on heresay that there was 'caffeine' noted in Mckay's blood...

he acted like a drunk...
they would cover it up if he's on drugs or booze...
is there anyway, thru dna, or would the body have to be dug up, to test this...or would the time of valid testing have passed due to decomposition...

has the actual autopsy court with the complete blood analysis been released?

perhaps the family lawyers are on to this...i don't know...but at this point, after so many serial lies, i think it must be reviewed...

and of course...the floyd family's drug/alcohol test right after floyd killed liko needs to come out...
we KNOW he was on presctiption psych drugs and pain drugs, according to admissions already in evidence...
but we don't know any specifics...and should...
the guy KILLED someone with a sucker shot and no warning, after lying about the set up...
what the eff were the mckay floyd team ON, other than the thrill of the kill...?

i think all cops should have to do a drug test and minimally an alcohol 'blow' test, before they are allowed to operate any of the vehicles we purchase for them...
ah, the legacy of Mckay & monti and franconia select board and ayotte is such a huge weight of burden on the honest and valiant le...
who have to pay the price for the evil rogue...

then again, nobody stood up to mckay and busted him back...and they all knew him...and i don't think he was widely liked...by anyone...
most cops are good...they can smell a bad one too...
quicker than us even...

but they can't step up without losing their jobs...and getting their chiefs in an uproar...the poor honest cop is really a victim here, as well as the targetted community...
monti, ayotte, and franconia select board, and state rep. for franconia all need to change...
quickly...impeached, voted out...special town meetings for this purpose etc....

we need someone to coordinate this locally...

Anonymous said...

franconia select board needs to be questioned publically and quickly, as does rep. mcleod; it's awkward that her husband is a select board member...

these might be good people, i don't know.,..if they are they will make STATEMENTS facilitating and coordinating and releasing FULL DISCLOSURE...
if they balk, or do not...then they have defined themselves and must be removed...
all three of them...monti has already showed his incompetence and his arrogant refusal to release matters of a public record, so he's history...get him OUTTA HERE>>>>buy bye monti, i ain't stopping for you or any fpd until you're GONE...
liko complied and liko died...had he not stopped, two lives would be saved...had he sped up and ran for home or sure witnesses, two lives would have been saved...

state rep. martha mcleod, selectboard member's wife, needs to come out with a statement RIGHT NOW...

Martha ARE YOU WORKING FOR FULL DISCLOSURE OF ALL EVIDENCE, ARE YOU MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THE LIES AND INCONSISTENCIES IN THE AYOTTE'S REPORT???
ARE YOU FINDING AND PROACTIVELY REVEALING MCKAYS RECORD???

if not, what the hell are you doing? YOU ARE ON THE BLOCK AS WELL...YOU CANNOT HIDE EITHER...YOU RAN FOR THE OFFICE YOU GOT IT; START ACTING LIKE IT...

your rhetoric was your great concern for the community and the great honest contribution you were gonna make...
now you and your husband are both heavy franconia politicians and i've heard jackshit from either of you....
SPEAK UP OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR TONGUES AND WEAR THE 'COLLABORATOR' ribbon...

sorry, that's the way it goes when 'leaders' don't lead...
do it today...the heck with both of you tuesday if you don't speak up today...

you are already weeks late...some leaders...
let's shake some action

we're already working on kelly and the concord killers vigilante team...

Anonymous said...

mckay was on steroids or alcohol...they are doing this big coverup for lots of reasons...we need to go deeper...mckay was nursing a steroidal rage...would explain a lot of the irrational violence...
or he could just be a run of the mill organic psycho sociopath bully...
but, i think something more is up...
yes, speculation...let's test...and/or make them prove otherwise....

they are all dirty...we know that now...time to dig deeper...there's a coverup or two behind the 'coverup'...
there ALWAYS is....

Anonymous said...

11:01, here is the source of the caffeine "hearsay". It might be worth your while reading the official report and some of the supporting (and in some cases NON-supporting!) documentation before you make random accusations about stuff.

See p. 24 here for the following:

"Dr. Thomas A. Andrew, the State’s Chief Medical Examiner, conducted an
autopsy on Cpl. McKay on May 12, 2007....The cause of
death was multiple gunshot wounds....Toxicology testing revealed an incidental finding of caffeine."

http://doj.state.nh.us/publications/nreleases/pdf/062507franconiareport.pdf

Anonymous said...

"mckay was on steroids or alcohol...or he could just be a run of the mill organic psycho sociopath bully...let's test...and/or make them prove otherwise...

Thank you for this prime example of the way you morons think. Pure speculation that McKay used alcohol or steroids followed by your "expert" psychiatric diagnosis and a demand that "they" prove otherwise (as anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes at a Jr. High School debate knows, proving a negative is a logical impossibility.)

"they are all dirty...we know that now..."

Another great example of how you've all pre-determined the facts of this matter. You KNOW, what happened (based on your bullshit speculation) and have already decided what the only "just" outcome is.

What a bunch of clowns.

Anonymous said...

"I've ridden motorcycles over 150 miles an hour. Hell, 130 IN THE RAIN."

Not traffic, but criminal violations by the way. I'm sure though if Bruce McKay had stopped you for them, it would only have been as part of the greater conspiracy.

Anonymous said...

Hey KingCast viewers,

Just heard through the grapevine:

-4:30 PM gathering today (7/16) @ Franconia Town Hall to rough some feathers.

Chris do you have any more insider info on this?

Anonymous said...

Another great example of how you've all pre-determined the facts of this matter. You KNOW, what happened (based on your bullshit speculation) and have already decided what the only "just" outcome is.


Who gave Liko the option of innocent until proven guilty? Who determined his mental state and the over riding reason he shot McKay? Did he not deserve a jury?

Who at the AG's office determined which story of the Floyd's to use and ignore Caleb's due to "pepper-spray" influence? Guess the freak drugged out Floyd was more reliable.....what a joke.

Anonymous said...

So, Debby you just KNOW, that Floyd was "drugged out" don't you?!

I agree with a lot of the points raised here that the case stinks to high heaven and there are tons of questions that deserve to be answered. What I don't agree with is the way you have all predetermined the truth to be, largely based on nothing but speculation.

Your post is another prime example. You complain that poor helpless Liko wasn't given the benefit of a trial and "innocent until proven guilty" didn't apply to him, but in the same breath you convict Floyd of an accusation that you don't have one shred of evidence to support.

Anonymous said...

6:13,,,
well the ag office has made a ton of accusations they don't have one shred of evidence to support...
your sarcasm is noted...
there is a ton of evidence that supports Mckay's unprofessionalims and brutality...
that is why you are finding that "the case stinks to high heaven"...

duh...

now for 6:01

this hypothesis i wrote is a fair one...u don't have to like it monkey...

we know a TREMENDOUS amount about psycho pepper...and more will come out when feel it's prudent...

and no i don't trust a word of any reports out of the state...and yes i am here to theorize on occasion, as well as to make findings of direct lies...and also here to kick your monkey ass again and again and again...

you were dumb enough to paste part of my post...:

"mckay was on steroids or alcohol...

or he could just be a run of the mill organic psycho sociopath bully...let's test...and/or make them prove otherwise...

Thank you for this prime example of the way you morons think. Pure speculation that McKay used alcohol or steroids followed by your "expert" psychiatric diagnosis and a demand that "they" prove otherwise (as anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes at a Jr. High School debate knows, proving a negative is a logical impossibility.)""
________________________

ty for calling me a moron...
in a haze of faux intellectual
& the usual sweep of insults without taking responsibility or acknowledging
1. any culpability on the Attorney's General office for DOZENS OF OVERT LIES AND SNAKY SPIN, ABSOLUTELEY PROVEN, WHICH YOU NEVER RESPOND TO BORRO VON GOEBBELS, BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY CANNOT...

so u hysterical faux bully vigilantes can continue to scream into the wilderness of your own vacant denial and cruelty...
from the safety of your computer screen...you've never made ONE point...or refuted ONE point on target...
it would be MORONIC to assume anything straight at all was going to come from these crooken politicians and dirty bullies...

2)
had u read what i wrote; and what you cut and pasted...(moron, you pasted it & repeated it...so observe:

and i quote you quoting my fine self here:

"or he could just be a run of the mill organic psycho sociopath bully...let's test...and/or make them prove otherwise..."

see monkey?
(a little listerine would help with the banana breath, your psycho hatred problem is already well publicized)
I had OF COURSE, allowed for the possibility that Mckay could, as a fall back position, be merely
"a psycho-sociopath bully"

is that what you're contending and agreeing with, my generous latter designation?

which would be the question why the fpd and the select board and the attorney generals' office...would allow a proven and well known brutal psycho to continue to operate with impunity, and to the destruction of many a life, and causing many a nightmare to the series of citizens he brutalized, both in his personal and professional life...
as a con man, thief, serial wife and woman beater, liar etc...all well known...
i don't have to prove it to you; it's already been proved...and will be proved again and again NOW for those who actually listen...

i was actually cutting mckay a break...thinking maybe an alcohol/roid rage problem was the seat of his inhumane cruelty, unprofessionalism and criminal brutality...

but you are right, he is possibly just a sick bully pyscho dick, so filled with fear and insecurity that he burned down an entire communities trust in law, to the detriment of all his fellow officers across the north country...

then again...he's such a poser, such a little guy working on pumping himself up...with an obvious and hideous sexual abuse component to his behaviors, that roid impotence might have been a component in his ceaseless rage and snaky cowardice...

so monkey, thanks for giving this moron a chance to extrapolate for you here...

the subtext, and i'm GLAD it outraged you and burned your ass...i'm not playing defense anymore with any of these enablers endangering my community, and beating our women, and torturing and abusing our youth...

so i'm glad you've reacted...
no i don't trust anything out of Ayotte's report...
you are about to see her silly ass and her corrupt report and her overt evidence tampering and evidence destruction, bite her right on the ass like a bear trap on a chimpunk...

EVERTHING out of the state in regard to this is in serious question...you don't have to like it...i'm rather pleased with your response...it's easy to light your fuse von goebbels, you weren't the smartest kitty in the litter were you?
and isn't about time you climbed out of the litter box?

yeh, i want to see the actual report, the numbers, the chemical analysis, EVERYTHING should go to neutral forensic experts NOT needing to SUCK on the state for fear of losing their career...

yeh, i'm proposing that the whole chain of command and events is potentially corrupted and crooked, and intentionally so...

tha'ts right..you got that much right...

yeh i'm proposing that monti and the select board and our state representative need to come out TODAY, with answers and direct responses to our demands for evidence from monti, and the board, about the ALL aspects of complaints and discussions regarding Mckays behaviors...in his four year torture fest for Liko, as well as his several other examples of unprofessional and brutal behavior; contemptuous illegal behavior...

if they don't speak up NOW TODAY...and control their chief and take control of this situation, then they need to be replaced...

if the 'authorties' had been doing their jobs in the first place, this would have been more carefully handled...
and Liko complained to the right sources in the correct manner and something was worked out and these 'officials' need to tell the whole story in context...and they will be forced to...
as we tell the story anyway...
i know it's gonna be an ass biter for people like you; and that pleases me...
your time is up and over...
the time for denial and incompetence is dead and gone...we are standing up for our children and our community and our state and our nation against filthy authorities who endanger us and then act arrogant when the public wakes up and demands their right to know info...
so screw off...
this is a great day...
a great day...

roid rage or just plain brutal nazi asshole?
i don't care, take your pick...i was trying to cut the asswipe a break...

i don't even have to dig a pit for you to fall into one...
...but it's great if i can take some small credit for bringing on your stroke...
have a nice day!!!

i'm sure Ayotte and monti and the select board will have a wonderful afternoon!
;)

Anonymous said...

Caleb's statement:

Floyd himself told Caleb he was on psychiatric drugs and would not be held responsible for killing either him or Liko.

Floyd's statement:

Floyd told the Officer in his statement he was on 22 different drugs.


This is not speculation. Have you read the statements? Floyd knows he is drugged out and talked about it.

Anonymous said...

Hey a-muss,

I am 6:01. Aren't you responding to
5:03?

debby

Anonymous said...

and no i don't trust a word of any reports out of the state...

Of course you don't. Like I've said you've already decided what happened and/or didn't happen. Anything that doesn't fit neatly into your little pre-scripted tragedy is dismissed out of hand.

As you're prone to amateur psychological diagnosis you might just have enough brain cells functioning to appreciate how revealing your juvenile, insult laden posts are.

It would be to easy for me to stoop to the same kind of childish insults that you so quickly resort to. A sure sign that you don't really have to much worthwhile to say.

Anonymous said...

The info I have posted came directly from statements given on the night of the shootings.

Anonymous said...

two wrongs never make a right.

Anonymous said...

yes debby; so sorry!! so very sorry; esepcially to u!!! u are a shining light here...
was being attacked by two at a time and by anonyJoes and had to resort to the numbers rather than names...sorry for the mix up...

OHHH, there's my pal; there's 6:43 borro again...

one more time NOT making a point or a comment on point...trying to wrestle around in the mud..
either a personal attack on Chris or a poster with NEVER EVER a response on point, or engaging on point...monkey breath slurs don't cut it...

police brutality and corruption in the white mountains gets to be a huge issue, thanks to ayotte and monti and mckay...

monkey does not EVER respond or engage on point...
baiting little monkey kicked to the curb again and again...

here's a vid for u...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AKK9EjEEG_Q

hope it helps brighten your day...makes your kinda proud of humanity after all, does it not?

Anonymous said...

Don't be so sure it is more than one person......maybe, maybe not.

Yah, I really like the response to my letting them know it came from Floyd's own mouth - twice.

22 different drugs that he actually claimed. With no blood test we don't know how many he was and is taking.

Anonymous said...

in honor of Cpl. Bruce Mckay, a video compendium:

A 250 Lb. Chicago Police Officer Beating a 115 Lb Girl

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l93Ixy_q93I&mode=related&search=
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Anonymous said...

so we've had our usual little purposefully distracting trollie flurry here...
as to the main question...

where the hell is floyd's (both of them)
detailed blood report...??!??!!!??!!!?

and WOULDN"T THAT BE TREMENDOUS INCOMPETENCE AND CORRUPTION FOR THEM NOT TO COME UP WITH ONE>>>OR CLAIM WASN"T TAKEN????

there's the point the trollies want obscured...
that's the question i asked that brought down the heat...
welll, wellll, wellll...

and where's the actual chemical analyses of the mckay autopsy?
just askin...

but if gets peeps so hot...
it makes me even more interested in why they are afraid of an answer...
a-muss...

and yes debby, 'they' are probably just borro, maybe one other...ty...bless u...

Anonymous said...

Just to jump in here and make a quick point.

I'm a cop and am 6'4" and go about 230 lbs. Some of the most violent, people I've dealt with over the years have been small women. You can't automatically discount the need for legitimate use of force just because the suspect happens to be a small woman and the cop happens to be a big guy. We frequently deal with a woman who looks like she would blow away in a good wind but is a real brawler.

I am in no way advocating unreasonable force. I couldn't get the video to load so I can't comment on the Chicago incident. Just saying you shouldn't automatically jump to any conclusions about who was right or wrong.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like you threw this guy under the bus. Most people write things in trust, Chris.

Makes me think nothing is sacred, what with you outing your past lovers and the intimate details of your love life. You use people.

Get back to the zen study, and for real, not this window dressing bit.

Anonymous said...

Also I'd add that I'm in agreement that a lot of things were poorly handled in this incident, both at the scene and in the aftermath.

However, there has also been a lot of 20 / 20 hindsight posted here. I see some of what happened as inexcusably sloppy police work while some of it is more understandable.

If you've dealt with a chaotic crime scene you would probably agree. If not, it's not always as clear cut as the TV cop shows make it out to be.

Just my $.02 worth

Anonymous said...

Sounds like you threw this guy under the bus. Most people write things in trust, Chris.

Makes me think nothing is sacred, what with you outing your past lovers and the intimate details of your love life. You use people.


And this surprises you somehow?! Get real. This whole dog and pony show is about nothing more than King's personal agenda. He doesn't give a damn about anyone who doesn't serve his purpose.

Anonymous said...

"liko complied and liko died...had he not stopped, two lives would be saved...had he sped up and ran for home or sure witnesses, two lives would have been saved..."

ANONYMOUS AT 11:11 -

right on point...LIKO COMPLIED AND LIKO DIED"

LIKO'S innocence, say whatever you will, detractors, is abundantly clear to me by his actions. yes, i said INNOCENCE. i don't care how slowly or how quickly he complied, but he did so. he was then cornered, rammed and maced.

i presume there is factual documentation or evidence, somewhere, formally or informally, regarding liko's right to request and receive representation by an officer other than mckay, subsequent to previous court action and applicable to future traffic stops. if so, this will support that mckay's chase on 5/11 was largely motivated by mckay's malicious intent and anger.

this officer was an aggressor and needlessly introduced, as he did in '03, unnecessary violence to a traffic stop.

psychological screening for the potential to abuse power needs to happen in earnest; and sanctioning, not absolving police offenders and re-offenders should be the rule, not the exception.

TL

Anonymous said...

TL,

I don't know how you can possibly say that Liko was innocent in this matter. It does appear that there were aggravating factors, but a couple of things are not in dispute.

I've seen the video of the '93 incident and to my way of thinking Liko was the one who escalated the situation. I'd agree that when things degenerated that it could have been handled better, but I disagree with both the contention that McKay needlessly introduced unnecessary violence and that the responding backup officers intentionally took Liko out of camera range so he could be beaten.

In the May incident, Liko fled the scene of the initial stop. His speed is not the issue, the fact that he fled and refused to stop with a cruiser behind him with it's lights flashing is.

When McKay pulled in front of him and pulled up nose to nose (incredibly poor tactics I'll be the first to agree) Liko backed away into the lot on the side of the road. You may see that as compliance, but it could be just as easily be seen as someone who was still refusing to stop as required by the law and may well have been trying to flee a second time. I do agree that McKay's response of ramming him back further was again, a bad tactic and probably uncalled for. I also agree that McKay's use of the pepper spray was questionable, depending on his department's and NH's use of force policies. His walking away with his back turned was incredibly poor tactics as the end result prooves.

Despite all of that, you cannot avoid the clear facts that Liko fled the scene of a traffic stop, refused to stop for a police officer and finally shot that police officer multiple times.

Lots of additional issues to be sure, but how can you possibly say he was innocent?

Anonymous said...

maine cop said...

Also I'd add that I'm in agreement that a lot of things were poorly handled in this incident, both at the scene and in the aftermath.

However, there has also been a lot of 20 / 20 hindsight posted here. I see some of what happened as inexcusably sloppy police work while some of it is more understandable.

If you've dealt with a chaotic crime scene you would probably agree. If not, it's not always as clear cut as the TV cop shows make it out to be.

Just my $.02 worth


It is possible that it was less calculated as you said. 20/20 is always clearer. I do think that it was impossible for them to be neutral in their immediate investigation at the scene. Considering that Floyd had been identified as shooting Liko, threatening Caleb's life, as well as the "Easy boy, I'm quicker than you" deal, and they did not handcuff him or even put him in a cruiser blows my mind. At the very least there was gross prejudice from the minute LE arrived at the scene.

Anonymous said...

maine cop at 7:29 ~

i understand your viewpoint as LE, and respect your reasoned judgment regarding the potential for danger to an officer at a traffic stop. it would be unreasonable to suggest that all 110 lb. females are incapable of a dangerous, physical response to an officer.

mckay, however, had 12 years of experience in this small town, and a rich history to draw from in assessing his at-risk potential.

mckay, by reputation for being mace-happy, often chose to demonstrate an overreaction to circumstances that drew his attention.

given the history between mckay and liko, he should have had the aptitude and professional skill set to keep the 5/11 traffic stop under control...and IMHO he did not.

TL

Anonymous said...

ty for writing in to here maine officer...
in that particular video, it was a rogue, unfortunately...
he sucker punched her and really wailed on her...
pretty brutal...

but i absolutely accept your reports of your own experience...and if someone truly attacks or assaults you, it would, in my opinion, of course be essential for you to protect yourself with appropriate force levels, even severe ones...
no one deserves to get hurt; especially a good cop on the job...
i would, and have, come to the aid of officers in a quick flash, because i've seen nimrods go crazy kicking out pretty violently at an officer trying hard, and humanely, to simply cuff this person in an appropriate manner for an appropriate reason.

that, as you have inferred you know, is not what happened here in this case...

and Cpl. Mckay's personal and professional history, in a small mountain town, is infamous for abuse...
part of what tears me apart about this...other than this tragedy being completely preventable...
...is the darkness and division it throws on all the vast majority of decent cops trying to earn a living and do an appropiate job...people who are brave and courteous enough to swear sincerely to the code...
"
As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception; the weak against oppression or intimidation; and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the Constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality, and justice.
I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all; maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn, or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in my thought and deed in both personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the laws of the land and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duties.

I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill-will, never employing unnecessary force or violence, and never accepting gratuities.

I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession -- law enforcement."
__ __ __ __ __

that's a heavy promise and a sacred responsibility only made in earnest by superior people with a grand heart for service, as well as the other skills necessary for le...and also people of great courage...

We WANT to feel proud of our officers. we DO treat them with respect, courtesy and even affection...
this guy was a bad guy and the blue line let him slide for 12 years, until a fatal double tragedy, entirely preventable happened...

i think the discourtesy and danger and the division being promulgated here is from a callous AG, a frightened local select board, and a chief who feels he has to support the blue line, regardless of whatever, just as a 'responsible administrator'...and also to cover his own butt because he knew of the problem but sat on it...it finally exploded, and he's STILL sitting on it...
and you know, that's just not gonna fly...

it's understandable to some extent...you want to support 'your own'...u have responsibilities and pressures that most other job descriptions don't encounter...
...but there are also truly many other job categories where the deaths and injuries are more pronounced...and the pay is as shitty, and the benefits non-existent...

but when a chief, ag etc... condones and allows abuse, (as i'm sure you know)...and when that leads to double homicides and a murderer walking free amongst us...(one with a history of PCP sales, and also a history of threatening to kill cops)
well, let's say that, combined with the death of a citizen loved by so many that five hundred people showed up for his services and there's less than 800 residents of that particular town...
(granted people from surrounding villages came to pay their respects as well)...
well, its a sad mess to see that kid and his family villified nationally by a corrupt AG, and to have a sociopath rogue exalted, and really a dangerous insult to have a convicted multiple felon police assaulter and PCP seller, cut free with an 'investigation' that took less than a few hours...while many purposeful lies were told to the press, and picked up nationally of course...
and this was intentional, to create the spin and define the situation as something other than reality...
then we waited six weeks for the 'reports'...and we found evidence tampering, evidence destruction, and a plethora of false statements, many of which directly conflicted the attorney general's own public statements...

so what to do??????

the trolls here incite further division...

it's a mess up here...and the community is trying to sort it out with great patience and grace, but now with proactive demands, because the people in charge blew it...

sincere gratitude for YOUR service. and your comments.

and part of the reason i am so angry at the overt distortions and criminality in the attorney general's office...is that this is smearing good cops, making it harder for new cops, and seeding a very bad example that seeps into general le in the state over time...
the bullies will rise to the top and quickly...as the politics in all jobs come into play...

and it is sick making that that this AG, is a thirty something kid appointee with huge political ambitions, NOT an officer, nore even experienced successful lawyer or prosecutor!!!...
...yet the 'head officer'...due to political shenanigans...
...and that is putting actual real loyal officers, (making tiny fraction$ of what she brings in) to lie and dance around till she's governor or senator, putting actual good cops in service, under suspicion and danger in a vigilante justice paradigm she overtly and directly and insistenly endorses...
it's bad. it creates a diseased police environment that hates the community...
and a community suspicious of their officers, to the point where we need new SOP, and god knows what the attitude blowback is going to be with the officers in the field toward the community...
it's bad man, i tell you it's bad...and the community is trying to do something sane and gracious and lawful in response...

and the law breakers are in the AG office...sad sad sad, our kids have to be exposed to this...

bless you, thank you and prayers that all your shifts are safe ones...
anonyomuss

Anonymous said...

Debby,

No disagreement from me regarding dealing with Floyd at the scene. I would have at least had him in at gunpoint and then in handcuffs until things were at least initially sorted out.

I don't think I would call it gross prejudice however. In the adrenalin dump of responding to these kinds of calls it's not really much of a surprise to me that a lot of mistakes were made. Sometimes even very experienced officers make very basic mistakes under this kind of stress.

The intensity of being a cop in rural NH is also a factor. It's likely that none of the responding officers had ever been to an call where an officer had been shot or a call where two people had been shot or maybe even a shooting call at all.

I'm not making excuses for it, just fleshing out a possible explanation.

Anonymous said...

Maine Cop @ 8:35AM

Thank you for your effort in keeping a level headed assessment of what transpired from your perspective. A much needed break from the "trolls" that have surfaced as of late.

Just based upon what you said in that post, would you find it out of character or just plain wrong to close the investigation within a day or two?

Anonymous said...

maine cop at 8:20 ~

i concede to your factual overview, with the exception of the '03 stop, where, i, too, have viewed the video...and believe the matter should have been verbally, not physically resolved.

....and to the degree that i concede, i will admit that my emphasis on the word "innocent" colored by my abhorring bully behavior and unreasonable force by police, examples of which we see on the news each and every day across this country.

a decision to beat a citizen into compliance must surely be a subjective call on the part of responding officers....specific to liko in '03, i believe the response was excessive, and became a negative catalyst for future encounters between these two individuals.zr

TL

Anonymous said...

in that '03 stop at the trailhead, Liko Kenney did act obnoxious...
then again, he was breaking no law, was NOT in a suspicious place, was in an open place...and not drinking etc...
and Liko KNEW, from the start, that he was being messed with intentionally; the sexual proclivities and other brutalities of Officer Mckay were especially well known to the kids he targetted...
Liko was scared...
did he act like an asshole?
yeah...
but he was scared; and for good reasons...and great fear comes out as great frustration and yeh he just should have shut up...MAYBE...or maybe screamed louder and louder, until some real witnesses came around...Mckay had the backup, (not the closest backup from the decent Easton or Sugar Hill police forces, but his selected backup...and also had them turn off the sirens...
that stinks...he wanted a private party and had one...

and Liko still asked all the right questions...and his fears of sexual abuse by the officer were almost immediately come to fruition as Mckay jammed his groin in Liko's face...

Liko knew who he was dealing with...he was 19, mouthy and scared...the cop was supposedly mature and experienced...he was neither...he was brutal...

and what you may not know, you should read some of the history here, is Mckay's non-stop attack on Liko; his contempt for the kenney-miller family...Mckay's lies in court...Mckay's destroying that kids sense of safety and security in his own community...

and i am sorry if this seems disrepesctful...but in cases like these...it makes much better sense to forget all that 'when a cop tell you to stop, you better stop'...
because when some cops tell you to stop...they're gonna rape you, beat you, mess with you, mace you, or kill you...
...so best to speed on up and take your chances for a bordering town or see if you can make it to the state police, or turn yourself in to a friend or family member to accompany you thru the processing...

that 'all authority to the cop stuff,' sorry, no go around here anymore...
not safe, nor right, not smart...

and i do mean 'sorry'...
because i grew up loving and respecting le in my personal home and my personal life...
how much of this corruption is instutional up here, and how much is individual...remains to be seen...
a-muss

...

Anonymous said...

ananomuss,

A large part of the problem as I see it is that McKay's reputation is largely undocumented. If people had legitimate complaints against him that weren't reported then shame on them. If legitimate complaints against him weren't investigated then shame on his PD and the NH AG. Point is that none of that is very clear.

Also would add that nearly every cop has had complaints made against them. Write some people a legit ticket and they march right to the Chief complaining that you're picking on them or you were rude or swore at them, whether it was true or not.

Luckily, video in the cruisers usually backs up the officer's side of these accusations. I recently had a foriegn born cab driver accuse me of stopping him for no reason, abusing him because of his nationality, threatening him with my hand on my gun etc. Before he signed an official complaint, my Captain offered to let him see the cruiser video of the stop. It showed me being nothing but polite to him, even as he called me every name in the book and raved on about kicking my ass. My hand was nowhere near my gun at any time.

After seeing the video the guy got up and walked out of the station. I just wish he had signed his statement first as it would have obviously been false and given some recourse to counter his potentially damaging claims.

Point being, not every complaint against an officer can be taken at face value.

Thanks for your support as most of us are trying to do a good job for the public and keep the profession honorable.

Again I'm not making any excuses for anyone else. Just asking that people consider that there are possible, legit explanations for some things.

Anonymous said...

maine cop ~
otherwise, a very gracious thank you for an opportunity to hear and understand your perspective and viewpoint.
TL

Christopher King said...

5:03

"What a bunch of clowns"

We'll see about that. We've already shown the state to be a bunch of clowns, and I don't necessary agree with that particular comment anyway.

It's all the other pack of DOCUMENTED LIES that need to be addressed, but I notice you haven't addressed any of that because you can't, you clown.

5:22

McKay can't pull me over on a racetrack, can he?

Dummy. You made an assumption but it only made an ass out of YOU.

Christopher King said...

7:39 about "throwing this guy under the bus."

From another post:

M.A.

My policy is simple:

If you tell me not to print something I won't print it.

I have also, in several emails and on the Nashua Telegraph forum page, put Dean on constructive notice that I may print that email.

Not one person has ever complained about my use of their emails to me -- well except Kelly and Jeffery but that's too bad so sad hard cheese for them because that's all public record.

********

And as to the purported "intimate details of lovers" you have got to be joking. There is exactly one reference to anything sexual that ever happened with any lover on this blog, it is far from explicit and it was written in direct response to her writing in to this blawg as a jilted lover after 17 years.

This is not a sex blog, in case you didn't notice.

Despite Horn Dog's wordplay at times.

Phooey on you.

Anonymous said...

maine cop, i echo TL's thanks for your perspective and sharing your experiences, none of which i doubt...
and it's a shame when people bag on cops with self righteous crap, and they DO...i know that, it's wrong...way wrong...

and i agree with your assessment re: evidence of Mckay's dis-service...
but you will find much of it here, some anecdotally, and some directly from signed letters from folks with personal experience with this officer...

you are totally correct imo...and that is another reason why people, a lot of people across a broad political spectrum, decent people with respect for law and officers, are so incensed at the AG, and the fpd chief, and the select board, because all sorts of testimony...from adult citizen Tim Stephenson...records of Mckay macing a kid in school, making other people sick and freaking out the principal who called for help in the first place...
...
and the Mckay experience is exactly the opposite of yours with that scumbub who was filing a false complaint against you...

if you read the letter from the attorney who represented a woman who had been maced by Mckay...
Mckay reduced charges and worked out a deal so that the video would NOT be seen by the judge...
we will see that video eventually...Mckay knew he was out of line...and just covered up...and lied to the attorney in the process...if you read that letter...

anyway, that will be only a handful of cursory examples,,,,WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BREAK THE WALL DOWN AND GET THE EVIDENCE OF ALL THESE COMPLAINTS AND THEY ARE BEING WITHELD BY THE SELECTBOARD, AND THE CHIEF OF FRANCONIA PD...

and that's got an entire divserse community fed all the way up past their necks...

these are very small villages and we know what's going on...and what has been going on...

we're not going to live in a lie, or denial...
...many witnesses will come forth with testimony...but that makes them bigger targets, does it not?
but they will come...
some have...
point is...the fpd and the select board already have all these histories and won't release them...

neither will they say they don't exist, because we know that they DO...

and the longer we wait, the more they will obfuscate, spin and destroy evidence, and pressure people NOT to step up...

that is the example the AG office has set...
and destruction of evidence, and evidence tampering is against the law...
oh they will work out, or try to work out some fine line small print distinction to keep their own asses out of cuffs and prosecution...and will set themselves aside in a circle of protection USING LEGIT LE as their pawns and fools, to keep their criminality secret; and continue to keep Mckay's complaint record and evidence of his personal history of other kinds of abuses and rip offs...from the populace...

this absolutely pollutes the le environment...there is very little crime to speak of, per capita up here...and u know as well as we do...there's always a couple of strutters who want an extra stripe for a series of cheap busts on their record...over nothing...and they target the weak...

and make the rest of le look bad...and if this isn't going to be handled internally by strong chiefs and higher officers with superior management authority, then the public HAS to do it...

they kept on givin mckay stripes and titles...
this serial personal and professional abuser was a TRAINING OFFICER for goodness sake!...

there is something very wrong with the le culture in a few of these towns...very wrong....

i conceded readily that many idiots are going to falsify their testimony to try to screw a cop...but that is the huge minority, hopefully; just as the rogue officer is the huge minority, hopefully....

the evidence will be provided...good people went thru proper and appropriate channels with these complaints,,,,and got told basically to screw off and keep it to themselves or find themselves under attack...

that is about an authoritarian and dangerous to a society as anything i can think of...and it surely is a breeding ground for big trouble and violence...

the selectboard and the chief will be replaced and mighty quickly...unless everything comes out...and i mean TODAY...

as far as concrete evidence of Mckay's abuse history...
watch for the civil suits, and watch for other developments...and kindly peruse the histories here...

the community still shocked at AG's vigilante justice endorsement, and franconia pd chiefs arrogant denial of requested info...

and select board refusal to deal with this in an honest and open disclosure paradigm...

we are not gonna take it period.

it's the reverse of your situation with that guy who wanted to get you in trouble out of his own arrogance and outrage...
Mckay's the one who didn't want the cop cam vids shown to the judge...(see very recent posting from NH esq. who represented one of mkay's victims...)

and the AG IS the one who destroyed the audio and released truncated video...
is that not MORE than highly suspicious...and hugely illegal????

especially when eyewitness accounts, by ALL parties, show the AG's spin to be purposeful lies....
sincere best to you...
safety and light and good health to you and yours...

also, for me, and obviously some others, your presence here is very appreciated.
thank you.
a-muss

Anonymous said...

130 mph in the rain even if on a race track, anything might have happened and you would have been a bloodsmear.

Anonymous said...

lifer,

About closing the investigation after a day or two:

The short amount of time does not itself indicate that the initial investigation was flawed. In my experience, murders are usually among he easiest crimes to investigate. Most are practically solved at the scene and all that's left is to tie up the loose ends like getting the toxicology reports from the Medical Examiner. There aren't really many big mysteries like on the TV shows.

What I do find surprising is that Floyd's involvement wasn't looked at more closely and that an investigation wasn't re-opened when it became apparent that the first versions of the story left a lot of unanswered questions.

Anonymous said...

Maine Cop

Thanks for your honest input in directly addressing my question.

Christopher King said...

9:44:

Anonymous said...
130 mph in the rain even if on a race track, anything might have happened and you would have been a bloodsmear.


.....Blood smear, maybe, maybe not. I had a set of $1,000 leathers so who knows. My point is that challenging the government to provide documents in a botched criminal investigation or cover up is AT LEAST that dangerous.

....You got anything else?


Maine Cop:

Having worked for an AG and for a criminal defense attorney and in my own practice I've NEVER seen an investigation with this many holes and contradictions as noted herein.

And the outright lies about the shooting itself are astouding. The bullet hole in the windshield, where was that bullet recovered from, was it as Junior said -- i.e. that the bullet made the car stop on top of McKay?

And Floyd lying about the open window and saying anything to Caleb or Liko.

Floyd should be up on an attempted murder or criminal menacing charge on Caleb and unless he was really in the direct path of Liko -- which Caleb says he wasn't -- he should have been charged with murder on Liko.

Anonymous said...

Chris,

Regarding Floyd being charged with murder:

That's your opinion, but in all fairness you have to admit that's all it is. There are very real possibilities that the elements necessary for a murder charge aren't there.

I understand that there are conflicting versions of the incident, but where Liko's gun was and what he was doing with it at the time are important unknowns. Calebs testimony is not necessarily any more valid or trustworthy than Floyd's or his son's.

If someone had gone to McKay's defense and found Liko still armed, they may have been in reasonable fear for their own life. The inconsistent versions of what happened and what was said or not said are the problem. As it stands you cannot discount the possibility that a reasonable person may have taken those circumstances and felt they were in jeopardy of being killed or seriously hurt. I can't quote the NH law but that would likely be a sound case for the legal use of deadly force in self defense. No doubt Floyd's checkered past doesn't make him a poster boy for civic responsibility, bu you have to admit that his past actions aren't the issue, nor should be be judged only by them.

As a cop I'll admit that my natural bias is probably slanted towards the officer so I'm not 100% objective, but with all due respect I don't think you're able to look at this with much objectivity at this point either.

That's my whole purpose in posting, to show that there still are very real possibilities besides the conclusions you've arrived at and to encourage people to consider all of those possibilities.

As an attorney you of course know that guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is a tough standard to proove. All I'm saying is that there is plenty of doubt on any side of this issue you choose to sit on.

Anonymous said...

Maine Cop,

I am just checking the site and see how much you have contributed. Thank you very much. I definitely appreciate the fact that you are willing to converse in a respectful manner. You are the kind of police officer who we have wanted input from.

Are you looking for a job in NH...haha....

Anonymous said...

Maine Cop,

I do have to say that I find it very difficult to put stock in Floyd's statement as it has varied drastically in mere min.

Consistency is very important, wouldn't you say?

Christopher King said...

Dear Maine Cop:

Thank you for bringing a voice of reason from LE on this page.

Yes there ARE a lot of unanswered questions, but the whole point is that ANY facts that pointed toward Floyd not being in the right are being held by the AG's office and only disseminated in the press pak.

Given the serious natures of the conflicts there was no way that this case should have even been preliminarily closed when it was, within one day.

Also, some things really are NOT in dispute, and that is that there really is no evidence to support Floyd's story about shooting through an open window and pushing Caleb back in passenger seat.

ALL of the evidence, including Caleb's fully raised window as they pull out of frame, points to Floyd shooting through the glass, and as I've mentioned watching Caleb hit downward dog on my lawn, the kid is fast, and that alone is what saved his life.

Not to mention the partially-redacted documents that still show that Floyd was still holding a gun and ranting at Caleb long after it was clear Caleb was unarmed.

And the bullet holes that the official report says came from Floyd's shots being in a tool box and in the McKenzie's window points at him shooting anywhere but up in the air as he claims.

But thank you for at least admitting that there is a lot to consider, which is more than any other LE has ever done here.

Remember, I don't hate LE. I have worked as an AAG and represented police officers as well as sued them, and I can tell you I NEVER came across a cop that has as many bad things said about them as Bruce McKay.

Not once in 20 years of reporting or lawyering.

Peace and best wishes out there to you my brother.

-c

Anonymous said...

so the maine officer agrees the floyd investigation fiasco was flawed...this obvious truth is good to hear from ONE le, even if a state away...
shame that not ONE NH le has the balz to come forward...they KNOW mckay was a rat...they KNOW he was a player...but none of them could do shit without risking pissing off the next chain in the heirarchy...so that's the kind of 'law' we can expect in NH...vigilante justice endorsed by the top cop, and finessed by the arrogant locals...
not gonna fly...
we're gonna change that paradigm...
we'll write the sop, we'll change select board and police chiefs...and we'll make the nation know that ayotte is nothing but a political liability for the big republican bucks that placed that young snot in a position of privilige...
top cop...
right...
maybe she's top with her husband...but she's not top ANYTHING else...

it should be re-opened...
so, at this point, should he FINALLY be arrested along with his ratty lying kid?...and investigated by professional detectives, which the franconia department obviously can't handle...

their cops were too new...shocked at a their first homicide call?

did they get their badges from a cereal box; or did they go to school?
are there no detectives in the north country, certianly not in franconia...

they sure passed donuts and beat down people while they're shackled...they got that one down apparently...

this needs to be fed, as i've been suggesting for quite some time...this area is surrounded by natinoal forest...
at least we can hold the ATF to some kind of standard in the public...

...the state is rotten with the top cop intentionally destroying, corrupting and truncating evidence, while giving vicious and intentinally falacious spin to the local and national media....

...it's not abnormal for a double homicide involving an officer with a history of abuse targetting this kid to be solved in an hour???

it's not like TV?
gosh who woulda thunk?
it's exactly like reno 911...it's exactly like police academy movies...
and those made it to TV...

more sinisterly, it's exactly like a lot of the beat downs and macings you one can research easily...

the copcrimes data base was taken down...
gosh, i guess there's some stuff we're not supposed to know...

so basically, it's hopeless, sit on it, live with it, nothing's provable, including corruption of evidence?
nothing's anything tra la tra la...
everythings okay now...

i mean i appreciate the reality sandwich...i honestly do...and i appreciate the officer's even attitude and personal sense of integrity...he admits to a natural tendency to protect le in these regards, borne out of a lot of hard experience dealing with real criminals...and i respect that of course...

...but proactive and fierce activism will prevail...
even now, the voice of franconia people are FINALLY being heard...
only because they dropped the law and order bullshit and all showed up at city hall to demonstrate and demand...

the law is a whore in new hampshire...which is actually an insult to whores worldwide, so i apologize to them..

Anonymous said...

WE ARE SHAMEFULLY DEPEJNDING ON THE PRESS WHEN WE SHOULD BE THE PRESS...
YOUTUBE IS FREE; ONE UBS CORD; ONE CHEAP DIGI CAM...EVERYTHING COMES OUT tonight unedited NOTHING COULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE OR IMMEDIATE...MAKING THE NEWSPAPER REPORTS ADJUNCTIVE AT BEST, IRRELEVAANT AT WORST...

we need to BROAD cast...get it? BROAD...and immediate and visceral and it costs nothing and everyone has a digi vid...donot wait with any materials ou have...put them UP UP UP TONIGHT>..put everything up and out...delay gives the dark forces more room to spread lies...this is jnot being handled correctly in terms of true immediate impactful advocacy of the most important public event, and ONLY public event that has peopel assemblig and demanding annswers...hopefully someone is getting this and will broadcast EVERYTHING YOU HAVE UNEDITED TONIGHT FOR FREE ON YOUTUBE...
PLEASE COME BACK HERE AND REPOT THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS SOMEONE...PLEASE POLEASPLEASE....HOLD NOTHING BACK...NOT THE CELEBRATION IN EASTON, OR THE FUNERAL SERVICE...OR THE INTERVIEW YOU MAY HAVE...OR STATEMNETS...AND ESPECIALLY THIS FOOTAGE OF THESE ANTAGNOSTIC IMPCOMPTENET PUBLIC OFFICIALS...THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO SEE UNEDITED AND IMMEDIATELY...OR ANY IMPACT IS ALL FOR FUTURE SECRET COURT SETTLEMENTS OR PEOPLES MORE ARTISTIC ATTEMPTS AT CAPTURING THINGS ONCE THINGS ARE OVER AND DON'T MATTER MUCH...

JEEZE LOUSE...SMAATTEN UP...
put everything you got up and out on youtube tonight!!! ALL OF ITT>>..thankyou,

Christopher King said...

When we hit YouTube it won't be a fragment of anything.

It's going to be a knockout punch.

-c

Anonymous said...

a knockout punch when the fights substantially over is a paradigm that comes to mind...
...tho i won't rain on any body's artful ambitions...

i am sure, alreadly proven point, that you have sensitivity and talent and will produce something important in terms fof a visual/audio document of power...
my point, hopefully received, was that the immediacy of coverages OUTSIDE of the very silly american 'press' can help build a critical mass NOW, change things NOW as things develop, rather than have to read good people here desperatedly pimping rags like the caldedonian etc...because there is no other news source...

i see no in depth coverage of the very important event that took place this evening...some future film or book, will be supported by me...but the immediacty of BEING and MAKING the news and having an IMMEDIATE effect in relation to the putrid bought and sold lie-rags that people lend credibility to, a credibility they do not deserve...they are pimp rags for ad bux period...

so reality continues to be defined by those idiot papers and silly 'writers'...as thing progress...

if the points i've made about the importance of immediacy in citizen activism aren't being heard here, i'm not sure if i'm helping or if i've outlived any short usefulness i might have attempted to be of here...

i don't see how immediate reportage and postings hurts anybody's film or book or commentary or whatever...

this is now...the community is shaping the reality NOW...they need, we need, the truth needs, constant reportage and visceral unedited coverages NOW...when these events occur...

now people must wait for sick slant news rags to define this afternoon's reality...or for some future film release...
...
i'm seeing no descriptions or posts in context, or making an attempt to describe the importance of today's event...
so interested parties have to go somewhere other than the SCENE...
and wait for these idiot publications to blather whatever...
and with today's technology in today's world...that is like jumping off a cliff with feathers glued to your arms instead of driving to the airport and flying somewhere...

something major happened and there are no eyewitness accounts here...and there is nothing posted? people have to go to news whore outlets in tv or print rather than get it straight...
the story tells itself...
show the raw footages...
this shouldn't be an audition for hollywood...
or another marketed product in the culture...imo...
and if that comes to be, great...meanwhile, i want action, not commercials for something that dosen't exist.

or be , sorry, almost teased, hyped about an indie film that is to be released sometime in the future after the events have passed and solidified somewhat, and budges are solicited. tra la tra la...

...copyrights ALREADY being fought over and protected when nothing here is copywritable...you'll make a profit and buy tennis rackets for millionaires with half the profits? what the hell???

...rather than a FLUID present tense effort that empowers the community...??
to me that's future news, like this guy's book...which will be his second...maybe it will be good...who knows...
who really cares at this point...he's got his advance and maybe he'll produce something worthwhile...as with any film or video effort ala the many political documentaries these last several years...

point is...that's tomorrow, that's next month, that's next season, that's christmas time, that's next year...
and what is going down NOW, what went down TODAY, well pick up the friggin nazi caledonian record and read amy nixon???
or whatever space timmins gets in the concord rag, regardless of some of it is, hopefully, wonderful reportage and writing...??

the game is to make the news, break the news, not wait around for bullshit spin and then sit in our own shit and play with it...
imho...

if you trust the people of this nation with the raw materials, the story will tell itself beautifully AS it happens...
and will have an immediate and ongoing effect...

i'm not anti kingcast for chrissake...or any product that eventually emerges...i'm not here for endless commercials for anybody's future movie...or attempt to 'produce' a work of documentary art, after soliticing budgets...meanwhile rome is burning...

....this should be, at least to some extent about absolutley encouraging and empowering citizen activism in the present tense...the PRESENT TENSE...imo, as
THAT will teach kids, and adults, THAT will empower people...THAT will enter the zeitgeist and change the gestalt...in the NOW...not hang around and wait for authors and film auters to throw us crumbs, however delicious they might be, come the day...
i no longer expect to be understood around here frankly...hopefully there has been something of small use in my responses...
anyone's free to upload anything, and i encourage them to do so...if they want to break past the bullshit newspapers and all the stupid spin, and broadcast the news that they are MAKING...instead of waiting for some future project to tell them what who they are and what has happened in an edited and artful form, no matter how impactful...
...as i said, i'll support the film and i'll read the book...but today, when there's big big news being made...we get nothing...the culture gets nothing...and the youtube generation should know better i sometimes think

Anonymous said...

Christopher King said...

When we hit YouTube it won't be a fragment of anything.

It's going to be a knockout punch.

-c

8:28 PM


WHO IS THE "WE" YOU REFERENCE HERE? DEBBY? LS? AMUS? JOHN POOLE? JP?

LET US KNOW, DEAR KING.

Christopher King said...

4:01

The we is whomever wants to participate.

If that is you then you can holler at

kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com

Peace.