25 June 2007

KingCast shows email from NH AG Ayotte to Attorney X and comments on 2007 Franconia shooting tragedy video and explains the movie, "Franconia 5/11."

Read the adjunct post.

Update: NH AG Kelly Ayotte and Jeffery Strelzin hid this witness.

In about one hour I am going to watch two men, two sentient beings, die deaths that could have been prevented, regardless from which "side" of this issue one views things. Nothing in the World will ever bring them back physically, but what we can -- and must do -- is to ask ourselves exactly three things in general:

1. What is the most disconcerting thing about this tragedy?
2. What is the best way for the community move forward with so many police and crime issues continuing, i.e. sex offenders, missing women and thievery, all documented on this blawg elsewhere.
3. If you knew Liko Kenney or Bruce McKay, what was the thing about either man that you liked the most?

There you have the essence of that portion of the KingCast movie, "Franconia 5/11," and Liko's friends, family as well as Law Enforcement personnel from the area are welcome to participate; that's why it just stuck in my craw when Governor Lynch hung up on me.

I will then, in the space below, offer my commentary on the video and related materials over the course of time. I expect this to be a rather lengthy post, obviously and could take us to production later this week.

Namaste,

Christopher King, J.D.

Update:

First and foremost I have reason to believe that Sam Stephenson and Chuck Hebert both gave TAPED statements to the police and they were first on the scene right after Floyd. And of course their statements should have been taped, it's a fresh murder investigation for Pete's sake. There is just a written statement in the AG's Report and NOTHING from C.H. Sam did say that Floyd's son said Caleb was lucky he had not been shot because he and his friend tried to run Floyd's father over.

Excuuuuse me, but Caleb was a passenger. Sounds like criminal menacing for Floyd. Again.

Second, BTW in the video at 19:15:53 you can clearly see Liko motion Shooter Floyd to come in as a witness, and we must wonder the selective audio given to us by WMUR, who has had a spokesperson on YouTube issue materially false statements already, as noted in this post. So strange that Shooter Floyd, with a scanner, happened on by at that time.

Read the comments section later to see the email from me to Attorney Strelzin I am writing, that notes that while the 2003 video plays, the 2007 does not (on 4 different machines), nor does Caleb Macaulay's taped statement play on three different machines. Fascinating. I expect a return call from him tomorrow morning ASAP noting if anyone else has had problems.

Below are the summaries of Caleb Macaulay's statement (and we know how that goes) preceded by the secret email to Attorney X, which notes that the entire investigation was indeed complete within one business day, as I noted herein. Said email also clearly notes that Shooter Floyd had no idea if Bruce McKay was dead or alive. Despite that, Floyd acknowledges at p. 20 of the 1,000pp transcript that he said nothing and just shot Liko "I could have put two directly in his heart," says Floyd.

And then Floyd threatened another cop, Philliip R. Blanchard, who came upon the scene as noted at p. 16 of the Official Report: "Easy son, I'm quicker than you."
WTF???

After that is a verbatim transcript of the tape of the Thompson family women who live directly across the street.
"The grey car was not going fast. I thought [McKay] was trying to get around it [for something else]. He made several movements (her daughter called it a "10-point turn" in her interview) to come nose to nose now facing north.... [McKay] pushed him and kept pushing him down (into the gravel area) dirt flew back the police car pushed him so strongly and just kept pushing and pushing and pushing until the grey car was beyond my view."

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Having now listened to the Grafton Dispatch McKay did call it in. Having now watched the video (or at least as much as WMUR let us hear and see but I bet there is more)you can see Liko was pointing McKay up the road toward Tamarack tennis, which is key because I have reason to believe the men were ordered not to have contact unless absolutely necessary. In any event, McKay did indeed mace without saying a word, and it was a lot. The autopsy note at p. 25 of the summary says "faint amount of oily residue on the right side of his face," but to me it was a plume of pepper. Ayotte reports at p.11 "[Caleb] surmised that Kenney might have driven over Cpl. McKay because he could not see as Kenney had taken most of the pepper spray."

Not to entirely justify what Liko did, but this is what I saw and I would be scared as hell too, especially if I knew that we were not supposed to have contact, and that Tahoe definitely made contact. As a matter of policing, why did McKay just blast Liko with mace and walk away, kind of like, "Take that, kid." Did anyone else see anything different?

Well, the kid didn't take it and sadly, the rest is history.

Except for the Civil Action against Floyd for what WMUR chose not to show us or let us hear.

To further insult our collective intelligence, there is all matter of questionable "other acts" of Liko in the report but not one mention of any complaints against McKay, and I mean NOT ONE, even though we have an alleged complaint of spousal abuse andI have direct knowledge from another attorney that he complained after McKay maced his 110lb blonde client, and we know there were issues when he maced out some kids at a public school. And I've read in the Caledonian Record that there were complaints against him. And we know he was sued and settled for threatening an area resident as well, yet NONE of this is in report. That's why I know it's a sham.

70 comments:

Anonymous said...

I still wanna know if departmental procedures were followed that fateful evening.

Perhaps some good can come of this, and prevent another senseless tragedy that claimed two mens' lives, traumatized many in Franconia, and moved people throughout the state and area to call for a complete explanation, not the half-assed BUM RUSH that the state initially gave.

LS.

Charles Duffy said...

Associated Press - June 25, 2007 1:55 PM ET

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - New information is expected this afternoon when the (New Hampshire) Attorney General's Office releases documents about the shooting of a Franconia (New Hampshire) police officer.

Corporal Bruce McKay was killed after a traffic stop in May. His shooter, Liko Kenney, was then killed by a passer-by.

The state plans to release its documents this afternoon.


Thank God for people Like Chris King!

Anonymous said...

Rev up the paypal, Chrissy!

Charles Duffy said...

Real crime is happening at the First National Bank OF Franconia.

I will rob the bank and donate the money.

We don't need a paper trail transaction

Anonymous said...

I am still confused as to how it can be a legitimate re-enactment from a video they supposedly never saw?

Charles Duffy said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconia

Just remember Berlin NH was a place they kept Nazi Prisoners.

History never changes the future. Only the new colors and flavors handed to us makes us think so.

Anonymous said...

Chris you recently wrote: "Interestingly enough, he let his daughter paint his nails. Sounds kind of creepy, was it clear lacquer or goth black?"

You took that out of context from another news article...for that stated:

"Others remembered McKay's love of motorcycles, animals, and how he loved his 9-year-old daughter Courtney so much he let her paint his finger nails."

What kind of a creep are you? This is something his poor daughter told a reporter. I can't wait until the video comes out and you realize you were wrong the entire time.

Answer me one question Chris. Do you think OJ is innocent or guilty?

Charles Duffy said...

The stop:

Hi liko, How are you doing? You know liko you need to slow down a bit. (as if he was speeding)

I thought I would pull you over to tell you that your not the punk I thought your where and whatever happened in the past few years I just wanted to tell you Liko your invited to a cookout at my house next weekend..

Without asking, I bet Liko would have brought the potato salad to Mckay's Cookout.

Big crime going on? First National Bank Of franconia.

Anonymous said...

wmur has the video.

I am glad they foolishly released the 02 because it backs up why Liko would want another officer.

NcKay's cat and mouse game certainly caught up with both of them. Tragic.

Be back - have to work

Anonymous said...

Hold up for a minute while we digest what they are willing to release on the video. I cannot say I am a propenent of Chris Kings ways, but I will say someone has to do something. He may be a bit dramatic but I cheer him on, all the way.

Debby said...

I have watched the video.

Regardless of what anyone thought of Liko and his actions in 2003, their is no one that could say it wasn't obviously clear that Liko was afraid of McKay. McKay was well aware of this on 5/11. Liko did not want a repeat and it was wise to ask for back-up from the start. There was no sound but the time shows Liko made the effort at requesting another officer as a witness. It was a very poor choice on McKay's part to refuse back-up when Liko asked repeatedly.

The ramming scene after Liko motioned twice (showing compliance)to let McKay know he was pulling back in off the road, in a much more open spot I might add, is road rage and anger by McKay along with the pepper-spray.

Everyone knew Liko was afraid of this man and McKay was more aware of it than anyone. It is like the wife that is beaten that snaps and kills her husband. Not ok but you get how it happens.

ArgusWest said...

First off, Id like to thank you Mr. King..
Im very close to the Franconia 'locals' and Im thrilled that someone has the testicular fortitude to expose this tragedy for the police f@!kjob it really is.


As for the 3 questions to ask oneself ..

1. The fact that 2 people lost their lives and the case was closed within 48 hrs..

2. This one can be applied to anywhere.
Maybe, jus maybe, this disservice to justice can be righted. We all know that lives will not be brought back.. But how bout admittin a mistake?? Havin Floyd ( The never miss unloadin half a clip at point blank range Rambo ) stand trail for his actions.

3. At the risk of soundin like sum tree huggin hippie..
What I liked most about Liko was his 'light'. He had a passion for whatever he was doin, and it was apparent the first time I met him..

Please withhold the Boos and Hisses for this comment...
But I had absolutely no issues with Bruce. All the stuff I heard bout him was from others. And not too many cats in my circle of 'friends' speak highly of cops EVER.
I guess what I liked most about him was the fact that he never fu%&ed with me personally...
And I did have quite a few runins with him when I first relocated here.

Sorry for the longwindedness ( Is that even a word?!?! )
Sometimes this whole thing jus really hurts..

Charles Duffy said...

Camp Stark German Prisoner of War Camp
Route 110
Stark, NH

Marker Number: 150

Name and date established: Stark 1985

Description: In the spring of 1944 a high fence and four guard towers transformed a former Civilian Conservation Corps Camp on this site into New Hampshire's sole World War II prisoner-of-war camp. About 250 German and Austrian soldiers, most of whom were captured in North Africa, lived in Camp Stark while working in the surrounding forest where they cut pulpwood vital to wartime industry. The camp closed in the spring of 1946 when the prisoners of war were returned to their homeland. Several maintained the new friendships they had formed with local New Hampshire residents.

Location: Located on the south side of Route 110, about 1.6 miles east of the Stark Covered Bridge.

John P. said...

This is Horse Shit .. This is meaningless hearsay. Lets hear Caleb's actual words and not at a time when he is scared to death that he is going to be arrested as part of a murder of a police officer.

What non lawyer or experienced person with police tactics would not say EVERYTHING & ANYTHING the cops wanted to hear in this situation. So, easily could he have been charged with accessory for not doing more to stop Liko. In fact he better be careful with what he says about the hero who took out a cop killer since he was the only witness and clearly was clearly more in the cops favor when they found out what he did than the buddy of a cop killer.

Hopefully Liko's attorney will soon be making statements.

Christopher King said...

To all, checking in at 7:27p.

Hope you caught the updates; click on the thumbnails to see where this case is going next.

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I am trying to watch the video using the DVD they gave me; I am on my 5th try I believe. 2 computers at Kinko's and 2 at home, plus the TV so actually this library try in Nashua will make 6.

I want to watch that

BTW 2:52:

Yeah I harshed on him a bit. Sorry.

And I believe O.J. was guilty, FWIW but what on Earth does that case have to do with this one?

Please advise.

Christopher King said...

John P:

Yeah, it's total BS and I want to hear the actual audio ASAP.

Even then he noted that Floyd didn't say a word, just killed Liko and Ayotte said he couldn't have known if McKay was Dead or Alive.

The bit about it not being murder because he was on medication is really creepy as well.

The lawyers will all deal with that on the civil matters even as the State gives Floyd a pass, as the State determined it would within 48 hours, and you can now see that from Attorney Ayotte's email.

Unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

So which is it a 19 point turn or a 10 point turn? Changing your tune already. While I don't approve of the pushing with the vehicle, it was not as hard as it was made out on this site. He was pointing, I saw his middle finger.

Christopher King said...

It was 10, man, so what?

The audio from Mrs. Thompson is still accurate, in case you missed it:

"The grey car was not going fast. I thought [McKay] was trying to get around it [for something else]. He made several movements (her daughter called it a "10-point turn" in her interview) to come nose to nose now facing north.... [McKay] pushed him and kept pushing him down (into the gravel area) dirt flew back the police car pushed him so strongly and just kept pushing and pushing and pushing until the grey car was beyond my view."

*****

And he was pointing down the road to Tamarack for a witness.

Christopher King said...

It was 10, man, so what?

The audio from Mrs. Thompson is still accurate, in case you missed it:

"The grey car was not going fast. I thought [McKay] was trying to get around it [for something else]. He made several movements (her daughter called it a "10-point turn" in her interview) to come nose to nose now facing north.... [McKay] pushed him and kept pushing him down (into the gravel area) dirt flew back the police car pushed him so strongly and just kept pushing and pushing and pushing until the grey car was beyond my view."

*****

And he was pointing down the road to Tamarack for a witness.

Anonymous said...

A woman was speeding right in front of Liko and McKay ignored her. She was going faster than Liko.

Why after what ended up happening in 2003 did McKay not choose to get another Officer? Pointless. What kind of point does it prove to refuse? To have called another Officer would have shown strength and maturity.

He knew Liko was afraid of him.

A picture is worth a 1000 words said...

5:39

So which is it a 19 point turn or a 10 point turn? Changing your tune already. While I don't approve of the pushing with the vehicle, it was not as hard as it was made out on this site. He was pointing, I saw his middle finger.

What are you blind, stupid or both? Is that all you got? Nitpicks? 19 point turn is a figure of speech, how narrow do you think 116 is? He was pointing, you can almost hear him scream I want to go there, I want to go to Tamarack. And it looks like a Tahoe slam to me, especially since they have their hands up, as if to say stop! stop!

What I see is what I expected to see, John Wayne, larger than life, acting with disregard for his safety or the safety of others, Just like the officer he was, and Liko snapped out of fear. There was nothing premeditated (as in planned). Had McKay followed any modicum of protocol, neither would be dead, it obvious now.

As for running him over, I have to believe that was just dumb luck. He couldn't see for a damn, I doubt anything other than getting home was in his mind at that point.

Hale said...

Snapping out of fear equals manslaughter. Packing the gun along with you looks premeditated. This video is of a guy shooting a man walking away from him in the back. Then he sobs, oh shit. Then he tries to get away. What an effing mess.

Christopher King said...

6:03

You are correct. A jury will see that Liko was motioning for McKay to go down the road for Pete's sake. Anyone can see that.

What's also key, more on the Shooter Floyd aspect, is what Sam and Chuck have to say, which should have been recorded and I have reason to believe that it was.

-c

Anonymous said...

I still see his middle finger!!!

Anonymous said...

Yellow journalism, that is what I see, You repeatedly stated a 19 point turn, and bashed with a 5200 pound, first it was a suburban, then that changed to a Tahoe, All to paint a picture the way you want to see it. Kenney might have been pointing but I clearly saw his middle finger doing the pointing. The Tahoe was pointed away from buildings, so how can it splatter the house with gravel. He did push the vehicle, but without the force you would have liked to portray on you site. Yellow journalism at it's worst.

Anonymous said...

When McKay turns around and the camera is pointing north,he almost hesitates for a few seconds...which is creepy, so the camera stays on Floyd(in the truck),watching & watching - now this was the craziest, most twisted person involved in this entire scene...and he is on the loose in our community. Is anyone else worried??????? How many other Floyd's are there out there that we don't know about, that the state let's have guns after being a convicted felon? only in NH? This is a real problem. We never knew Floyd existed.
And yes Chris - I agree about the amount of spray - it looks like Liko and Caleb are at a car wash with all of that mist. And double yes on the attitude that McKay turns and starts to walk away - it's like he's saying take that you punk. What the f--- was he thinking? Christ!
And where the hell is the audio?????

Christopher King said...

7:19:

You are so stupid. A Tahoe IS a Suburban, same car, man. When I first saw the car I called it a Suburban, weeks ago.

That is TRULY a distinction without a difference, and someone else already schooled you on the witness statement being a figurative thing, a "multipoint turn" whether it be 10 or 19.

Deal with the fact that there are missing audio witness statements if you're ready to run with the big boys and girls:

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:34:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Christopher King" kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com
Subject: Documented missing statements in Franconia report.
To: Jeffery.Strelzin@doj.nh.gov, kelly.ayotte@doj.nh.gov
CC: "Robbins, Joanne" Joanne.Robbins@doj.nh.gov, kingjurisdoctor@yahoo.com

Dear Attorneys Ayotte and Strelzin:

You know I am upset that you all never sent me thenews release announcing the 3:30 distribution ofmaterials this morning, despite the fact that I wasthere at 8:30 and your staff promised I would receive one.

It's not as if:

1. I didn't send you a 91-A request.
2. You don't have my email.

Also, I have never had mechanical problems with DVD or audio CD, whatever as I am having with Caleb McCauley's materials and the 2007 movie, neither of which played on a total of nine (9) different media applications between Mac, PC and TV DVD.

I am coming up there tomorrow morning after you call me back before 10:00 a.m. to advise that new copies will be ready, and I am keeping the current copies for analysis by my team in Boston.

I beat you before and I would rather work with you
than beat you again, but you're making it pretty
difficult for me to see this as anything other than an antagonistic relationship, even though I didn't start it out that way and my comments to Attorney Strelzin that he didn't want recorded are proof of that.

Ask him what I said, as if you haven't already. You
guys are no better than Bruce McKay when it comes to escalation.

Especially when you hide witness statements, which is my next point:

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I will leave you with this:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-presents-biggest-question-of.html

Dear Attorney Ayotte:

Why is there no tape recording or audio of Sam
Stephenson, Chuck Hebert or Connie McKenzie. All of these people were on scene and Ms. McKenzie helped try to revive Officer McKay and owned the property.

Please explain this as you read what will become the seminal post in this chaper of New Hampshire, United States, and World History.

This is my purpose in life, Liko and me, and this is
going straight to BostonNOW and beyond.

Christopher King, J.D.
KingCast.net
Justiceforkids.net

7:36 PM

Christopher King said...

7:30:

I have no idea what happened to the audio from WMUR; in two senses:

1. I think there should have been some kind of audio prior to the shots but you hear absolutely NOTHING.

2. They cut the video/audio before it was shut off, I can guarantee you that because no one was in McKay's car to shut it off.

They think we're stupid, apparently.

Christopher King said...

And oh, 7:19:

I bet in police gear that Tahoe/Suburban weighs MORE than 5,200 lbs.

I was going on the conservative side.

But go ahead, prove me wrong:

Cut and paste, the curb weight of a 2007 is 5265:

http://azfamily.carsite.com/index.cfm?
page=4&INVENTORY_ID=1760686

Did McKay have a 2006? Okay, subtract 100 but then add another 200 for police gear.

Don't argue cars with me dude, I've known cars all of my life and to tell you the Truth, I just said 5,200 without checking because I know these things.

But I was right.

Anonymous said...

I suggest every also read the post on youtube with the video, Recently ingested marijuana, and half a bottle of vodka was gone. He supposedly left Merril Agway at 5:30, they stopped at the liquor store and got some alcohol. So in less than 30 minutes two individuals had consumed half a bottle of vodka and who know how much marijuana. Why wasn't the consumption of marijuana and alcohol included in McCauley's report. That would put some credibility into mcCauley's statement, self admitting to a crime. As for the video and audio after the attack on McKay, The video was pointing in the direction of the field, what could have been seen. The audio was probably disabled after McKay had been struck and run over again. The report stated he had injuries of a broken pelvic, they wear the audio on their belt. So use your freaking head for something other that a hatrack. A little deductive reasoning I put that together by using several articles, granted not all the facts, but you have the whole report report everything not the items you decide make McKay look bad.

Anonymous said...

7:53PM...GET OVER YOURSELF...I'M PRETTY SURE THAT NEITHER OF THESE BOYS WAS DRUNK OR STONED...BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT MCKAY WASN'T SMOKING SOME KIND OF CRACK TO BE ACTING THAT WAY.

HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING THE LAW, NOT MAKING HIS OWN.

RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS...IT IS SOMETHING YOU EARN.

THIS IS AN UNFORTUNATE LESSON FOR ALL.

Anonymous said...

Keep fighting Chris! We need you here in Franconia.

debby said...

1) The most disconcerting thing about this tragedy is that many saw this brewing for years but did not know what to do. A young man - 19 yrs. old, still really a boy, was harassed for 4 years by McKay. The PD would not address the problems with McKay. The townspeople and Liko Kenney felt powerless against the very system that is meant to serve and protect. McKay wouldn't stop and it is sad that Liko was driven to feel that a gun was the only way to protect himself.

2) The best way to move forward is to acknowledge the problem with the local PD. Officers that feel they ARE the law need to learn otherwise. People should not have to fear minor traffic stops. People should no longer be targeted by age or any other type of profiling. The local PD should have to answer to a community review board and citizens need to be heard. Moving forward does not mean sweeping it under the rug and playing make believe.

3) I will tell what I like most about Liko today. His spirit is still alive and will live forever. He is standing with us to bring justice and truth back into the town of Franconia and beyond. I like that he is speaking to our hearts and encouraging us to let our anger go and face this with our hearts filled with light. He is LIGHT.

Big J said...

Hey Debby.

AMEN!

Christopher King said...

Hey 7:53:

The report says nothing about Liko being drunk or testing positive for alcohol and Caleb was never charged for that.

And "recently ingested marijuana?" It was in his system; it stays there for a month.

And oh, yeah:

Where are the missing witness statements that should have been taped and why is there no statement in the report from Chuck whatsoever?

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-presents-biggest-question-of.html

Try again.

debby said...

7:53, Based on your deductive reasoning from your statement below, would you please explain why there is no sound through the entire video except when Liko fires the gun? as well as after?


"The audio was probably disabled after McKay had been struck and run over again. The report stated he had injuries of a broken pelvic, they wear the audio on their belt. So use your freaking head for something other that a hatrack. A little deductive reasoning I put that together........"

debby said...

Hey big j,

I want to get your opinion on something......

7:07, Can't seem to let go of the belief that Liko is holding up his middle finger. Since none of the rest of us seem to see that, do you suppose it might me meant especially for 7:07?

Christopher King said...

Debby,

No kidding. I guess we'll know what's really going on when the state provides me a usable DVD.

Never had a problem playing anything before, and you know how many short films and commercials my crew has done in the past 2 years, dozens.

-c

Christopher King said...

BTW in the video at 19:15:53 You can clearly see Liko motion Shooter Floyd to come in as a witness, and we must wonder the selective audio given to us by WMUR, who has had a spokesperson on YouTube issue materially false statements already, as noted in the Tahoe posts.

So strange that Shooter Floyd, with a scanner, happened on by at that time.

Big J said...

Do you notice Liko's last words before being sprayed were directed at Floyd? I bet he said something to the effect "I want you as a witness". Just guessing but it sure appears that way.

Is that the act of someone about to commit 1st degree murder or by someone terrified that got pushed and snapped?

I'd wager if McKay had left the pepper spray alone, no shooting would have occurred. Ironic, what is it they say about living by the sword(spray)?

7:07, this finger's for you

Christopher King said...

Big J, you and I caught the same exact thing at the same exact time, off by only one minute.

First Liko tried to wave McKay back to Tamarack, then he tried to holler at Floyd to help witness the event.

And then he snapped after catching that face full of mace and a walk away with no directive.

Namaste.

Anonymous said...

OK!!! What difference does it really make if McKay called for back-up? It was for his ass not for Liko's request for a witness. Liko was set for another beat down.

I am sorry that any human lost their life but, damn! That guy McKay's head was seriously f--ked! He was not mentally fit to be dealing with the public. He would probably pepper-spray his own freakin dog for moving left instead of right.

McKay was not being a man of strength by telling Liko he could not have another officer on the scene. He was making the decision to be the "big dog", but that is really cowardice. He would not be challenged and most likely looking for "game" that day, as opposed to a young man that had no interest in going down the same path as the last episode.

If he could have found it in his heart to have a shred of respect for Liko by waiting and calling another Officer, he may have just found himself being respected back. Calling for back-up would have shown he was a decent and good man knowing that Liko was afraid of him. I know that isn't where his head was at but it would have been a great thing if it was.

We know he wanted Liko that day because as we know a VERY credible witness was about 1/2 mile in front of Liko and passed McKay doing at least 15 over the limit. He did not acknowledge the person (highly unusual). Guess this person wasn't going to give him the daily adrenaline he was looking for.

Liko Kenney was the ticket for that. "Oh yeah". Truly disgusting.

debby said...

Hey, in the statements you have posted here, Caleb states that Liko yelled to Floyd to please stay a minute to be a witness. You will notice Caleb pointing at Floyd's truck.

Christopher King said...

9:19 and 9:24

I'm off to bed, but have put together a very quick and relevant synopsis in the adjunct post:


http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-presents-short-version-of-2007.html

19:10:20 - Liko Kenney pulls to a cut away and stops; asks for another officer.

19:15:05 - Shooter Floyd appears on the scene after the second stop as Liko twice motions for Officer McKay to meet him back down the road at Tamarack. This will become crucial down the proverbial road. Floyd stays there even as McKay and Liko's cars are both well off the street.

19:15:42/49 -- McKay twice pushes Liko's Toyota back away from sight of witnesses in the house across the street.

19:15:53 -- Liko motions to Floyd to help as witness.

19:15:56/59 -- Without saying a single word or giving any command or directive, McKay alights from his Tahoe and immediately blasts Liko and passenger Caleb Macaulay with pepper spray and struts away like John Wayne, probably as he did it to that 110 lb. blonde girl not long ago.

19:15:60 -- Liko snaps and shoots McKay from his driver's seat.

Look, I'm truly sorry that Bruce McKay is dead. But I cannot excuse his actions any more than I can Liko's. And as for Shooter Floyd, well AG Ayotte already said he had no idea whether McKay was dead or alive, and he had a clear chance to retreat. Instead he didn't; he shot Liko and threatened Caleb and a police officer by the name of Phillip R. Blanchard, as the Official Report notes at p. 15-16.

Anonymous said...

Marijuana stays in the body for up to 30 days, but there are two typesof THC in the blood system. You have the autopsy report, look for the active TCH that causes a person to feel "high". The news report said he had recently ingested marijuana, recently ingested means that day. There is a big difference between a Subarban and a Tahoe, a subarban has a wheel base 130 inches and an overall length of 222 inches, width 79.1, a Tahoe has a wheel base of of 116 inches, overall length of 202 inches and a width of 79 inches. How can the same car be bigger than a Tahoe. So if you know so much about vehicle why didn't you know this? You are so used to having people believe your rank and file, you never have to base what you say with facts. When people have a differing opinion than yours you attack those individuals. This is when you reply back calling me a bunch of names, remember your pledge about using profanity. Keep up the good work, you opinion differs from the populace, but you do have the right to differ. Keep on Keeping on, this blog will help the town of Franconia prepare for any litigation. Your ego is your worst enemy. Know your enemy!

Anonymous said...

Respect is something you earn, but you also learn a respect for authority. And if that authority is not worthy of respect you go through the proper process of changing that authority. As for a civilian review board there is already one in place, it is called the "voter", There is also the NHPSTC, a review board that can and will pull and officer's certification.

Anonymous said...

Hey, 10:50 - who really cares if the car was a called a surburban or a tahoe or a suv. It really makes NO difference! A slam is a slam is a slam. No one can dispute what we saw.
what do you think McKay was going to do if Liko didn't shoot him?
Maybe he was walking away because he wanted to get a better shot to shoot Liko & Caleb? was his gun drawn? It had to have been at some point, otherwise Floyd wouldn't have been able to pick it up from the road, right?
I think McKay got more than he bargained for - and FINALLY got fired!

Anonymous said...

10:57
what is the NHPSTC? Can you give me more information on this? and how to contact them?

thanks!

Anonymous said...

How easy it is to follow someone who tells you what you want to hear.

This case is a tragedy, human flaws galore. Again, defining precisely what can be gained from it and pursuing that is the only path. The rest is just name calling, junior detective bullsh*t. And Chris King is the ringmaster.

Anonymous said...

How easy it is to follow someone who tells you what you want to hear.

This case is a tragedy, human flaws galore. Again, defining precisely what can be gained from it and pursuing that is the only path. The rest is just name calling, junior detective bullsh*t. And Chris King is the ringmaster.

Anonymous said...

6:36:

How can you suggest it was pre-meditated??

Are you saying that Liko knew that McKay would pull him over that night? Or that Liko was just lying in wait for the next stop?

If that is the case, why would liko have gestured several times? He was giving up. McKay would have none of it.

That is McKay's version of law enforcement. Protocol means listen to whatever McKay says? Legal and constitutional rights??: to hell with that.

LS

debby said...

comment from poster:

"This case is a tragedy, human flaws galore. Again, defining precisely what can be gained from it and pursuing that is the only path."

EXACTLY!! That means cleaning up the corruption in Law Enforcement NOW!

Christopher King said...

10:50

Tahoe, Suburban is still a distinction without difference. Both SUV's are available in short or long wheelbase and they weigh, at a minimum, 5,200 lbs. just as I guessed.

Duh.

Anonymous said...

10:57 PM
... And if that authority is not worthy of respect you go through the proper process of changing that authority. As for a civilian review board there is already one in place, it is called the "voter", There is also the NHPSTC, a review board that can and will pull and officer's certification.

Nice neat little box you live in, apparently you don't live in Franconia or the north Country. I do, I vote, I pay taxes, I got no respect from McKay and consequently he never got any from me. He won't get any in death either because he didn't die serving the community, only his own personal agenda. The tape makes that plenty obvious.

For your information, several years ago there was an election where a candidate did run on the platform of cleaning up the PD. This person did not win but did suprisingly well against the incumbent. Why don't we add that to the community voice the powers that be refused to acknowledge.

As for the Police Training & Standards Council, read this manual from their site. It's damn apparent McKay didn't.

http://www.pstc.nh.gov/
PUB&POL.MNL.pdf

Anonymous said...

The election process may be flawed, but it is at this time to best way to get the feelings of the general public. Your candidate did not win on his platform, so obviously it was not the majority opinion that the police department needed to be cleaned out. McKay's actions were within the confines of NH laws, there are two legislative bodies and the judical systems that controls law enforcement.

Anonymous said...

whether or not a Tahoe or Suburban makes not difference to the outcome, but it does show King is full of shit and doesn't know his ass from his elbow. High end tahoe is still a smaller vehicle 500 pounds less than a low end Suburban. Check your facts before you run your suck.

duh.

Anonymous said...

9:11 (ironic no?)

That is where you are wrong. The voting public is not a civilian review board. Especially in this case where complaints were buried by the Franconia PD and nothing was ever done or made public. How was the voting public to know?

Nice neat little system you LEO's have policing yourselves. What is wrong with an impartial arbitration and fact finding for LE complaints? What are you afraid of?

Change has to start at the grassroots and filter it's way up. To suggest that the NH House and Senate or the Judicial branch is the mechanism of change makes no sense and is futile, which you realize. Again, what is wrong with citizens taking control of this?

Also, you're apparently at least thinking. Can you explain two things:

1. Why is it neccessary to ram and push a vehicle that is already off the road and who's driver has given up. What standard does this fall under and what does this action gain the officer? Please don't use the argument "to protect innocent lives" as if that were the case, he'd have not approached the vehicle which leads to question #2.


2. Apparently McKay had called for backup and had allegedly issued a notice that Kenney was dangerous. What protocol encourages an officer to approach such a suspect, spray them, and turn your back? If this is not advisable protocol please comment on what should have been done, and why you think McKay behaved in this manner?

Anonymous said...

9:18 if you're so smart then you should know the Tahoe and Suburban come in the same trim levels, neither is high end or low end. But then again, this distinction makes no difference, except to use your argument against you.

There is really more substance in this than the vehicle used and it's GVW. Fact is, a police officer, for no apparent reason (anybody been able to justify a valid reason why?) chose to escalate a situation and use blatent disregard for his own safety, just because he was on a power trip.

Anonymous said...

excuse me but....

SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN TAHOE!!!!

IT MEANS SHIT!!!

YOU MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF COMPULSIVE OBSESSIVE DISORDER?

ARE YOU THE MIDDLE FINGER GUY?

Charles Duffy said...

The who point. and nothing less, What does Law enforcement have to gain over pulling over a 24 year old in Franconia? To make the court look good? As your taxes benefit from this type of shit?

Mcakay,

I'm a good cop the steamed hod dogs at the franconia country store have the answers.

Here's the bullshit.

Nobody likes the police in the area for 20 miles.

Good job assholes of law enforcement. Oh, there's rational he's a terrorist, Hes' a punk... I need to fill my tax raving idiots I work for.

No, the people up there are your best defenders of freedom.

Our county HAS COME TO ARESTING PEOPLE for diving without a Donkey.


Maybe I should have said camel.

Anonymous said...

I'm never going to convince you bleeding heart liberals of anything different, but I'll say my peace anyways.

If a police officer pulls you over for a violation(s) and then you suddenly and recklessly (look at the tire ruts on the video) speed off then you are going to be pursued. First you are violating the law by running and second you are endangering others, both by your initial reasons for the stop and your driving after being stopped.

I'm sorry, but the only thing the officer was guilty of was poor judgement on his approach to the car, because I would have had my gun drawn instead of pepper spray. After pepper spraying him he should have never turned his back on him and he would have been prepared to deal with the suspect and handled himself.

As for the Floyd issue, you all are not seeing the big picture. Floyd just witnessed an officer being shot and ran over (twice) so there is NO reason for him to retreat or announce himself, such as an officer might do. I'm pretty sure in the same situation I would have also shot first since he had all of a second or two to act. Stop armchair quarterbacking something you have days, weeks, and months to review when the citizen had a couple of seconds, at best, to consider his actions.

I wish just for once that some of the people I hear complaining would step into an officers shoes for a while and you would see that the world is a lot different from that vantage point.

B.H. Liberal said...

12:42 your're a cop. Can you explain two things:

1. Why is it necessary to ram and push a vehicle that is already off the road and who's driver has given up. What standard does this fall under and what does this action gain the officer? Please don't use the argument "to protect innocent lives because he was armed" as if McKay knew that were the case, he'd have not approached the vehicle which leads to question #2.


2. Apparently McKay had called for backup and had allegedly issued a notice that Kenney was dangerous. What protocol encourages an officer to approach such a suspect, spray them, and turn your back? If this is not advisable protocol please comment on what should have been done, and why you think McKay behaved in this manner? You say you'd have approached with a gun, but before your backup arrived?

As for Floyd, how do you reconcile that with due process? That's a law too. How do you know Liko was reloading, other than Floyd's account? He picked up the gun after the fact, he could have reloaded it knowing full well that was the only way he could justify what he did. And who said he couldn't safely retreat? Who makes that judgement? Right, the very same people who have lied to us from the beginning.

Anonymous said...

12:42
Great post very articulate.

1:14,
I think 12:42 suggested putting yourself in McKay shoes. Everything on this site is speculation and subject to interpretation about liko's actions. McKay had a volitile sitiuation with liko before. McKay probably saw the open conainer of vodka, the unregistered vehicle, liko then takes off. This is all monday morning quarterbacking, but I feel he was attempting to disable the operator of the m/v until backup arrived. 12:42 already addressed your question on #2.

Addressing Floyd's actions look up RSA 627:4 II (a) he could have loaded the weapon, but look at the pictures, the weapon was loaded and an empty magazine was on the floor boards of the driver side. McKay was alive when EMT's arrived, check the autopsy report and find time of death, it was quite a while after he arrived at the hospital.

Anonymous said...

7:09

I guess there is no precident or SOP that dictates when use of vehicular force is warranted? You "feel" he may have been trying to disable the vehicle? I don't see how pushing it backward even forcefully could possibly disable a vehicle. So what you are saying is that there is NO justifiable reason for him to have done that. That it is not a procedure law enforcement would use given the circumstances. Your're correct sir! It was rage, stupid rage, he was seething, no punk ass was going to push old Bruce around. Especially not a Kenney!

No #2 has not been answered please enlighten us. I'll repeat:

Apparently McKay had called for backup and had allegedly issued a notice that Kenney was dangerous. What protocol encourages an officer to approach such a suspect, spray them, and turn your back? If this is not advisable protocol please comment on what should have been done, and why you think McKay behaved in this manner?

We all know McKay was cavalier and arrogant, tape proves it.


Oh, and it's Liko with a capital L. He was worthy of a name, but maybe not in your eyes...so sad, so telling, so pathetic.

Anonymous said...

liko is not a name, John, Robert, Frank or Bruce is a name.

Anonymous said...

11:28 said...

"liko is not a name, John, Robert, Frank or Bruce is a name. "

By chance whould these men all have blond hair and blue eyes?

Wow, what you write is disturbing, and a microcosm (you may want to look that up) of the small-minded mentality of hate here.

Anonymous said...

7:09, where did you get the "open container" misinformation, and why are you spreading it around?

The AG's report doesn't say anything at all about the bottle of vodka being opened. It only says that there was a bottle of juice and a bottle of vodka in the car.

Maybe you should give up the Monday morning quarterbacking and try a different hobby.

Christopher King said...

Oh, that name game is totally ridiculous but this blawg is here to let us look at ourselves as World citizens, the good, the bad and the stupid.

And speaking of stupid, the AG's office is stupid to think I'm not going to file a bar complaint for hiding evidence:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-present-littleton-courier-and.html

-c

Anonymous said...

I'm the original 12:42 poster:

Yes, there is due process of the law, but Floyd's actions don't fall under due process. Floyd did not have an expectation to retreat or announce because he was trying to save a law enforcement officers life with his actions. There is no due process when there is immediate action required to stop someones death or serious injury, whether it be an officer or a citizen.

Another thing is that everybody is trying to bring into account that Liko and Ofc. McKay had issues before. This doesn't have anything to do with Floyd intervening since he had no prior knowledge of this and was just acting on gut instinct and what was placed before him. I would give the guy a medal for his actions. I hope none of you are ever in a situation where you are facing death and nobody wants to take action to save you because of what you define as 'due process'.

As for him ramming the car....I can't say for sure that it wasn't rage, but I can say it is safe to assume that he was trying to prevent him from running anymore. With a 5,000 pound vehicle the officer could have done a lot more damage than he did so I think he was just trying to prevent him from getting back onto the roadway. Just armchair quarterbacking myself and I hate that.....

And yes, his officer safety was not very good in this case especially since he knew he possibly was armed.

Anonymous said...

I think Floyd and McKay were on a mission..."death is so close survival is a mission." isn't this beautiful poetry. It should be a crime for children to be exposed to McKay's poetry or pepper spray in the land of Robert Frost.