24 May 2007

KingCast asks, "What's the difference between Christopher King and Liko Kenney?"

Apparently not much, except that I shoot negative, threatening cops with bullets on the Internet and he unfortunately shot one with real bullets after an ordeal of some kind so foul that NH AG Kelly Ayotte refuses to make the facts public. Meanwhile she is denying the public's right to view the full police video. The Concord Monitor and the KingCast letter I sent to her just today both demand production or a comment by 31 May, 2007.

He loved plants and so do I.
We both grew up around tennis.
We both like the mountains. I assume he skied, as well, duh.
We're both part Native American.
We're both quite intelligent and driven in our own ways, and we don't appreciate abuses of authority.

But he's dead because he used the wrong bullets.

The locals and others ask "what drove him to do it....."
[Editor's update on 19 August 2007: WMUR shut down that forum in a hurry]

Read some old comments I made to NH AG Kelly Ayotte on some aspects of New Hampshire government in this post from Wildcat.

Related story: Read the comments to see what Van Halen has to do with this.

22 comments:

Christopher King said...

My boys and I were rollin' 4 deep in the 535is

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2005/09/everybody-hates-chris-traffic-tools-of.html

one happy hour day, trunk of funk blasting Van Halen's "DOA." For those of you who don't know the lyrics, let's just say it's kind of like my theme song and even though I thought about not posting this experience because of the name of the song, the experience narrowly overrides that concern.

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Anyway, a cop in Columbus took the opportunity to re-introduce himself to me with the blue lights as we pulled up to B. Hampton's near my apartment, but instead of being a d*ck, he said "Turn that shit down.... real niggas' don't listen to Van Halen, anyway."

Then he told me how he met me the first time (he had a Mercedes 190E-16 and we had talked one night months earlier) and joined us for a beer when his shift ended.

He didn't offer a bogus speeding ticket on a road where everybody speeds; he didn't pull a u-turn and ram the Bimmer off the road, and he didn't effin' pull a service pistol or mace anybody.

And we laughed with him, and turned the music down.

And I'm still alive today, but Liko Kenney, by many accounts, had a real life sheriff "trying to drive him away," even more dangerous to him than Jaffrey Chief Dunn was to me. As much as Dunn tried, I might add.

Liko and I are kindred spirits, of this I'm certain.

Rest in Peace, brother.

Namaste, and may the families of all involved work toward healing. Which of course requires explication of all salient facts.

The unedited police video might help.

You just can't get away from that.

Christopher King said...

BTW yes the officer who dropped the nigga' bomb was black, but more importantly he was cool.

You can't exceed the scope of your privilege, so I don't call Italians "Guineas," unless I personally know them, and I'm just "taking a piss" as they say 'cross the pond. Usually followed by some poor-taste racial jokes all around :)

Duh.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/04/kingcast-and-mike-wilbon-present-last.html

Peace.

N.B.Forrest said...

I shoot negative, threatening cops with bullets on the Internet and he unfortunately shot one with real bullets

The assumption, based on hearsay, being that murdered police officer Cpl. Bruce McKay was "negative and threatening.

...he didn't pull a u-turn and ram the Bimmer off the road, and he didn't effin' pull a service pistol or mace anybody

Again, the assumption being that Cpl. McKay actually did.

Murdered police officer Cpl. Bruce McKay - guilty until proven innocent! Tried and convicted based on internet hearsay.

Christopher King said...

Damn, you are pretty thick, aren't you?

Again Chief Dunn told me Under Oath that NH Police statements are not sworn, that make them..... hearsay as well.

The video I seek..... is not.

Got it?

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Let's try it another way:

As a former AAG who has sued and represented police officers, the entire unedited video from that night must be produced, and the Concord Monitor (from the capital city) concurs:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-reveals-letter-to-nh-ag-kelly.html

I've been hearing a lot of things from local people that verify that there was no high-speed chase and that Mr. Kenney pulled over slowly and waited, then McKay walked up and maced Mr. Kenney and Mr. MacCauly without a word, the same way that Floyd then shot Mr. Kenney.

Consider this: If Liko Kenney had it in mind to shoot and kill officer McKay, he would have done it before McKay had a chance to mace him, duh.

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Oh, and have you read the dossier on that wonderful marine hero?

Let me help you:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-stands-aghast-as-he-reads.html

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According to the Concord Monitor, this is the background of the guy who drew a pass from NH AG Kelly Ayotte:

"The police charged Floyd with criminal threatening. It was during this incident that Floyd told the police how he'd kill them if he chose to - by shooting them in the head and giving them a "third eye."

Upon further checking, the police learned that Floyd's 1991 drug arrest in Georgia was a felony level offense. That, the state police concluded, meant Floyd could not legally own guns in New Hampshire. In June 1997, the state police added a second charge against Floyd: being a felon in possession of firearms.

During that arrest, Floyd attempted to knee Trooper Scot Bryan in the groin, according to court records, and was charged with attempted assault of a police officer.

He pleaded guilty to the attempted assault and received a suspended prison sentence in 1998. The police dismissed the criminal threatening charge, but it was not clear why from court records...." [KingCast says this guy clearly knows somebody or something, and if what Caleb MacCauley says as Liko Kenney's passenger is true about not saying a single word to Liko or Caleb, and peppering the ground near Caleb with gunfire, his family should sue the living daylights out of Floyd and the police for covering it up]

.....Nice Guy, a real winner.... really respectful of the police.

Christopher King said...

The only thing that's not hearsay in this whole affair is Shooter Floyd's record.

Smoked you again, brother.

Namaste.

N. B. Forrest said...

Damn, you are pretty thick, aren't you?

Apparently no thicker than you as you go on to say:

I've been hearing a lot of things from local people ...

Which again is nothing but more hearsay!

BTW, repeating your same posts over and over doesn't make them any more convincing.

Consider this: If Liko Kenney had it in mind to shoot and kill officer McKay, he would have done it before McKay had a chance to mace him, duh.

That magic crystal ball again! You and only you can see through the fog of the conflicting stories and just know what actually happened right?

The only thing that's not hearsay in this whole affair is Shooter Floyd's record.

Something else that's not hearsay - Liko Kenney's criminal record and history of violence.

You really just don't get it do you? I don't pretend I know what happened at the scene. But I don't automatically accept the anti-cop stories that come 3rd and 4th hand from Kenney's friends and family. I can paint as many scenarios as you can where McKay's actions were 100% justified by any legal or moral standard. As I've said before they're just speculation, but they're just as valid as the speculation you continue to regurgitate that make McKay the bad guy in all this.

Smoked you again, brother.

Yeah, right!

Christopher King said...

Look Man, my point is that all of it is hearsay at this point, including the police reports, unless Chief Dunn lied under Oath when he told me that they are not swron in NH.

Got that?

And again, the point that you entirely failed to address is why are the police so adverse to producing the video, when you and I both know that the police always produce video when the story goes as they claim.

Respond directly to this point, or you're just continuing to waste broadband. Good thing we've got FIOS screaming over here.

'Late.

Christopher King said...

Also, by the volume of people who have attested to the situation, it's hardly just Mr. Kenney's close friends who thought that McKay was a roughneck hater cop to those he didn't like.

But I don't jump to conclusions, in fact I thought I would bring the readers back to our first exhange, in which I applaud the Concord Monitor for demanding the police video and which you abandonded in the fashion of a coward after I blasted you then. My comment leads, then yours, then mine.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-applauds-concord-monitor-for.html

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Now as to whether or not the police are destroying records pertaining to complaints about Officer McKay I don't know.

But if there were complaints and if the department failed to adequately investigate them, and if the department is indeed destroying them, that's a serious, serious issue that should be investigated forthwith.

Peace.
By Christopher King, at 11:49 AM

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"McKay had personal issues and was not mentally fit to serve as a police officer."

So now you're a mental health expert as well as a legal one? Or was your license to practice psychiatry suspended the same time your license to practice law was?

Your drivel isn't worth the time it takes to read.
By N. B. Forrest, at 7:13 PM

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Well if you could read straight you would see that was a comment from someone else, dickweed.

And unlike some blogs, like Daily Kos, I never remove posts and comments so that everyone can have their say.

And if you think my drivel isn't worth reading, then don't. Get your own blawg, do your own thing, whatever, dude:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-says-to-all-haters-whatever.html

But you might enjoy reading "9/11 and the negative space," as noted in this post celebrating firefighters and police who gave their lives protecting U.S. citizens.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-says-conduct-real.html

Now get back to whether it was reasonable to terminate the investigation in 24-48 hours given Floyd's SUBSTANTIATED history as a friggin' maniac.

Namaste.

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So on the one hand you want to say how everything is hearsay (so we agree) yet you give more credence to the police hearsay (that's fine, just admit it) and you cannot possibly continue to ignore Shooter Floyd's happy history with the police, particularly in light of the fact that they cleared him within 24-48 hours.

I'm merely asking what if it didn't happen the way the police say it did, yet you have the nerve to say that I'm only paying lip service to good policing. No Sir, I am upholding the tenets of good policing by asking for the goddamn video.

See if you can digest that drivel, or maybe you'll just choke on it, die and stop wasting my bandwidth.

After all, you did say my blawg "wasn't worth reading," right?

Christopher King said...

One last thing you failed to address:

Query, have you ever been on the receiving end of police and AG propaganda, driven by hearsay that did not stand up in court?

Well I have, and I won, pleaded to nothing and all charges and claims from the AG's office against me were dismissed with no costs.

So perhaps I do know when to doubt the police versions of certain stories, particularly when they have a godamn video that allegedly supports their position that they refuse to provide.

I mention that in the letter to Attorney Ayotte that you have also neglected to address:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-reveals-letter-to-nh-ag-kelly.html

Namaste.

N. B. Forrest said...

As I've said before (something you've consistently ignored) I support the release of the video. It would undoubtedly clear up the questions and let the chips fall where they may.

Having said that, I'm not at all convinced that there is a public "right" to the video, especially if it's still potentially evidence in either a criminal or civil proceeding. I don't know what the legal precedent is, but just like other evidence in pending legal actions I don't believe there's an automatic "right" to demand the video's release.

...you and I both know that the police always produce video when the story goes as they claim.

That's not the case. I was personally involved in an incident where the department was not allowed to release the video of an incident that completely exonerated me of any criminal wrong doing or unprofessional actions. They could only release the video to the public after I was eventually cleared of any wrong doing and after the civil action against me and the department was dismissed. (Different state, different rules maybe, but that's the way it went down.)

While you have problems with the video not being released, I have problems with the 2nd, 3rd, ... 11th, 12th hand nature of the allegations against Cpl. McKay. Where are the 1st hand accounts from Kenney's passenger or from the female witness who supposedly arrived at the scene within a few minutes. If things happened as you speculate they might have, why aren't they screaming it out at the top of their lungs?

Let me guess ... another media / law enforcement conspiracy?

N. B. Forrest said...

...dickweed.

Hmmmm. Seems to me that someone who has to resort to the school yard tactic of name calling must not have much else to fall back on.

And if you think my drivel isn't worth reading, then don't...

I'm sure you would like it if the only people who read your blog and posted here were in lock step with your one-sided view of the world.

Christopher King said...

Where are the 1st hand accounts from Kenney's passenger or from the female witness who supposedly arrived at the scene within a few minutes?

......They're coming, believe me they are coming. And you have at this point no more reason to doubt what Caleb McCauly says than you have to doubt the unsworn police statements. More I cannot say at this time. Meantime, how is it you continue to ignore the maniacal record of Shooter Floyd, who was immediately exonerated of possible criminal actions within 24-48 hours when his record is much worse than Liko Kenney's?

That's incredible, man. Come now.

My one-sided view of the World?

My backgrond and experience says otherwise, mon frere. Why would I spend 4 years with the AG's office and representing a couple of police in my private practice if I hated police? And have you bothered to read the "9/11 and the negative space" article commending police and firefighters or not? You haven't mentioned it once.

And I truly enjoy setting forth all sides of an issue, unlike the MASScops, who again (as you ignored) called me a criminal and called the NAACP the "National Association of Asshole-Colored People." -- and then just removed the content from their website.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/07/mass-cops-shuts-down-kingcast-comments.html

You ain't touched that one, yet.

I never remove material from my blawg and love a good debate 'cos I've always been quite good at it:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/03/to-hell-with-slavery.html

And those awards on my mantle are not hearsay, so bring it on, brother.

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And you are correct, sometimes the police don't release the video (they typically do, however), but as the Concord Monitor pointed out, the only defense to not releasing the information is one of privacy, and that no longer exists because the privacy rights of Officer McKay and Liko Kenney expired with their natural lives.

And what about the data in Officer McKay's car computer?

Why not release that if there was allegedly a chase where he had to pull Mr Kenney over?

"Dickweed?" Yeah, I called you that but it's really no worse than you insinuating that I am "the illustrious former attorney," when I showed you that Attorney Ayotte addresses me as "Dear Attorney King." I'll be an attorney until the day I die, man. I've earned that, Poppie.

And again you ignored the fact that I've seen this particular AG get on the wrong side of things with a bad cop on two prior occasions, tried to make her see the light and she refused, wasting substantial taxpayer monies. So I'm hardly walking into this without substantial related experience.

But I don't automatically accept the anti-cop stories that come 3rd and 4th hand from Kenney's friends and family

..... and you continue to ignore the allegations of a lot of townspeople on other forums that McKay was roughneck on those he didn't like, and you continue to accept the police version of the story and you as a police professional know that there are a million reasons why the criminal case against Shooter Floyd could not possiblyhave been thoroughly investigated within 24-48 hours.

Hell, Caleb was so shaken he couldn't even hardly talk. Did you see his interview? Come now.

Peace, Forrest.

Christopher King said...

For those of you new to this, here is Shooter Floyd's illustrious background with the police, involving handguns and threats to "give them third eyes," as reported in the Concord Monitor:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-stands-aghast-as-he-reads.html

Really nice guy, shows his respect for authority.

Christopher King said...

By the way, Forrest,

Georgia's Supreme Court even hosted chase video on its own website, as noted in this entry:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-reveals-letter-to-nh-ag-kelly.html

"The Georgia Supreme Court published chase video on its own website! In fact, here's the video. And as to the video that was held up in your case because of an ongoing investigation, the State has already handily eliminated any criminal prosecution, it cannot now use an ongoing criminal investigation as grounds not to release the Franconia shooting tragedy video. Blam! The metaphysical reductionist strikes again.

So what's the reason to hold up production of the video?

Can you see where a reasonable person might have concerns that there is information that is less than flattering for the State's position in that video?

N. B. Forrest said...

... And you have at this point no more reason to doubt what Caleb McCauly says than you have to doubt the unsworn police statements.

To paraphrase then, you have at this point no more reason to doubt the police statements than you have to believe the unsworn statements of Caleb McCauly. You consistently however give far more weight to any and all hearsay that puts Cpl. McKay in a bad light.

"Dickweed?" Yeah, I called you that but it's really no worse than you insinuating that I am "the illustrious former attorney,"

Hmmmm. So throwing a vulgar, childish insult at someone is the same thing as calling an attorney who no longer practices law a "former attorney"?

...unlike the MASScops, who again (as you ignored) called me a criminal and called the NAACP the "National Association of Asshole-Colored People."

Just what is it you expect me to say about that? I didn't defend it. It's got nothing to do with any point I've raised.

... the only defense to not releasing the information is one of privacy, and that no longer exists because the privacy rights of Officer McKay and Liko Kenney expired with their natural lives.

Privacy is not the only issue. As I've pointed out, the video may still be evidence in potential criminal proceedings (perhaps against Floyd as you seem to insist. He can still be charged if his actions were criminal.) and certainly in civil proceedings brought by Kenney's family and let's not forget the possibility of a suit brought by McKay's family.

And what about the data in Officer McKay's car computer?

Same as above re: evidence in potential civil actions.

...you continue to ignore the allegations of a lot of townspeople on other forums that McKay was roughneck on those he didn't like...

And I will continue to ignore it until someone with 1st hand knowledge of what happened during this incident comes forward and tells their version of events. I could not care less about all the hearsay.

...you as a police professional know that there are a million reasons why the criminal case against Shooter Floyd could not possibly have been thoroughly investigated within 24-48 hours.

This troubles me as well, however if tape shows that Floyd's actions were justified it is understandable that clearing him so quickly was not only possible, but correct. And again, there may be several reasons that the police have not, and in fact may not be allowed to release the tape at this point.

I think in the final analysis we're both interested in seeing the truth come out of this all but are just approaching it from different ends. So far I've managed to address it without calling you "dickweed" or "bubba".

Christopher King said...

Privacy is not the only issue. As I've pointed out, the video may still be evidence in potential criminal proceedings (perhaps against Floyd as you seem to insist. He can still be charged if his actions were criminal.) and certainly in civil proceedings brought by Kenney's family and let's not forget the possibility of a suit brought by McKay's family.

.....There could be suits all around, but again, you are wrong about the potential criminal proceedings because the whole point is that criminal investigations have been..... closed.

.......And you can get upset about "dickweed" vs. "former illustrious attorney" but they were both put-downs and ad hominem arguments. Big Deal.

And I will continue to ignore it until someone with 1st hand knowledge of what happened during this incident comes forward and tells their version of events. I could not care less about all the hearsay.

..... ahh, but you love the hearsay from the police, that's my point. And you've ignored the point that I schooled Attorney Ayotte on hearsay involving cops who had me strung out, appearing to make me into a criminal big time already:

..... watch me in court so doing; and you can believe that's not hearsay:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-reveals-letter-to-nh-ag-kelly.html

..... again, I have more grounds than the average bear to know when something is amiss. And one thing you didn't acknowledge is the possibility that Officer McKay had video in his car but did not roll it.

.....I can assure you that in due time you will see sworn statements from other witnesses.

....Lastly, I point out the Masscops forum haterism to show you that there are indeed hater cops out there and that they poison the World for the rest of us. Don't be so fast to put Bruce McKay on a pedestal even if he was murdered, is all I'm saying.

.....In the words of a community elder in Franconia with respect to McKay, he said "I respect the badge but not the man."

Ciao,

-c

Christopher King said...

Oh yeah, and on the car computer issue, the possibility of civil suits should never be a bar to releasing pertinent information to the public.

If there is to be a civil suit then there's going to be a civil suit and all of that stuff is going to be filed in court anyhow; I can assure you the families are not going to file it under seal and the state wouldn't have the nerve to ask that.

So that has nothing to do with the public and taxpayers' right to know.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahahaaa. Liko is dead. SHUT UP AND GET OVER IT COON!!! The Cop is dead too so at worst, they both got what they deserved. So chalk up one to each of the cops and the bad guys. As far as Floyd goes, he should be hailed as a hero. If for no other reason than the fact that he evened the score! You, my friend, are nothing more than the typical thug, nigger, cop hatin' cuz they screwed ur business, MLK wannabe coon. You give primates a bad name.

Christopher King said...

Too bad I took out Chief Dunn and Prosecutor Bill Albrecht along the way.

And I don't rejoice over McKay being dead, even though he liked to mace 110 lb women, too.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-watches-truth-come-out-about.html

You've got issues. Try to work on them before your Judgment Day.

Namaste.

Anonymous said...

I feel much dumber after trying to read this blog. Chris, any money you paid for writing classes should be promptly refunded to you.

As a lawyer did you win any cases?

Hmmm, lets see...some guy tangles with a cop, gets pepper sprayed and then shoots cop and runs him over.

Bystander shoots guy.

Public saves money.

Chris, In reading your blog it sounds like you think the cop deserved it because he wasn't a great husband, maybe pepper spayed some kids and a grown woman. So what? Sue him.

You've yet to say anything that makes logic and reason.

Any money the public spent on your education should be promptly refunded.

Christopher King said...

Nah, dude the monies spent on my education are well applied to this pending RSA 91-A Right-to-Know lawsuit, which I have written after interviewing the female victim of McKay who watched him cut her lap belt off for no reason with a "penis-shaped knife" while cuttin in a downward motion toward her labia.

He never even attempted to undue the seatbelt using the clasp and she asked him 3 times "what are you DOING?"

Liko asked him twice before he caught that can of mace to the face "what are you DOING?"

You catch him doing that to your wife and you'll shoot him faster than Liko did.

As McKay would say on his old license plate:

"GOTCHA there."

Christopher King said...

So what? Sue him.

Well he's dead but I did sue the government that helped cover up his misdeeds, so if you have any more trash to talk you can read the lawsuit and issue a substantive commentary, or just STFU.