31 May 2007

KingCast asks if abuse complaints have been filed against Officer Bruce McKay before the Franconia Notch shooting tragedy?

Update April 2008: After months of Right-to-Know litigation, it appears I was correct, there were many, many complaints about Bruce McKay, enough so that issues of negligent hire, retention and supervision are implicated.

I have seen several comments indicating that Officer McKay (RIP) was abusive to his first wife and that he maced some kids in school for some reason. I have deliberately avoided repeating such claims on this blawg or anywhere else for that matter but now I see in this Wikipedia entry that he did discharge "a chemical weapon inside a school."

Can anyone shed any light on this? Is it true? As noted in the comments section to this post, I telephoned the Franconia police station yesterday at 2:12 p.m. to see if they would release the non-personal personnel file on Officer McKay but have not heard back yet. [Note: I now hear that McKay's ex-wife had a Restraining Order against him, and that he was fired from Haverhill, NH PD because of related issues]. Are these allegation true? At the school, what situation got so out of control that the mace had to come out? Were there any charges filed against a student(s)? Against Officer McKay? Was this an isolated incident or did he tend to arrive in escalated situations more than the average officer, and if so how can that be addressed for other officers in like situations?

As a former attorney for Ohio's largest law enforcement agency, I maintain that these are the issues that need to be addressed in order to promote more effective policing and there is not one law officer who writes in to the blawg going to convince me otherwise not because I'm stubborn, but because I'm right.

Related post: My letter to Nashua Police Chief Heffernan.

Dear skeptics, haters, supporters, etc: I've been taking pictures, reporting the news and seeking the truth for 20 years now:

44 comments:

Christopher King said...

Now here come the police, jawin'

"You're a suspended attorney" and blah, blah, blah, anything they can do to direct attention toward my background and away from the salient issues.

Well guess what?

I was a photojournalist and editor of Ohio's statewide black-owned newspaper, and a reporter at the IndyStar and I never got a suspended reporter's license, so I guess I'm just doing what comes naturally, as a professional reporter, not a lawyer.

Click on "former reporter"

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-applauds-concord-monitor-for.html

Now let's see whatcha' got for thatfellas.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure if there were actual "formal" complaints because that would mean giving your name. That will need to be checked in to.

Remember, the Chief of Police let this go on. It would be his decision to deem whether the complaint was valid - clearly a problem for the townspeople. There is no way the local PD was not aware of his behavior.

Of course, McKay would have to be questioned about it and the other person's identity would be known to him. This would put the civilian at risk for more problems with McKay. He was not one to take challenge lightly, as you can clearly see.

I don't know if they are required to put complaints given over the phone in his file unless it is a formal complaint and a name given.

As for his ex - rumor at this time.

Christopher King said...

Precisely. And this is why you need a citizens' panel to set forward formal complaints because it does help in some measure as far as the retaliation aspect goes.

And we do know that some police do retaliate on occasion.

The way it works is a citizen brings a complaint before the panel and a simple majority determines whether there is enough there to forward a complaint, signed by the committee to the police.

The police don't dare then deny the issuance of the complaint because dozens of eyes have seen it first.

Peace.

Anonymous said...

Small town issues not specific to Franconia only -

There needs to be some kind of change in how complaints can be dealt with outside the PD. It doesn't leave people with many options.

Many times people find themselves harassed if they complain to their local PD and their complaint goes ignored. Ends up worse than the original prob. People tolerate because they feel they have no options.

If a cop stands up against their own he is singled out by fellow officers. So, even if a cop sees wrong happening in his PD he keeps quiet.

Christopher King said...

Damn, just looking at Liko and looking at Bruce I know both of these men had so much to give to the community, and that is the real tragedy.

I couldn't sleep or eat right for days when I heard of this, especially given the reason I wasn't able to attend Tamarack Tennis Camp.

Namaste.

Anonymous said...

Our posts crossed - I like what you are suggesting. Has this been done elsewhere?

Anonymous said...

I agree that it is sad both are gone.

In my opinion the system failed them both.

Christopher King said...

Hey 7:35:

Yes, I believe so.

And I've got time to help set one up, it would require at worst some knowledge of Robert's Rules of Order, which no one really seems to know as well as they should -- I don't claim to, either :)

But all of that could be streamlined.

Hey 7:39:

Exactly.

-c

Anonymous said...

When you visit Franconia you may want to ask some of the 18-26 year old males who went to Profile about this.

A serious "altercation" took place there a few years ago between McKay and a male high school student. I don't know if this incident is one and the same, but "things" did happen, the circumstances why I can only guess.

I'm sure there is culpability on both sides. A familiar theme as we shall see...

Since somone opted to parady CSNY "Ohio" for you, I thought the Dr Pepper jingle appropriate as well:

Officer Pepper, So little is understood...

For now...Oh, in case you've not seen this:

http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/6a77e7104

It's too bad two people had to be murdered before any action was taken.

Not only was this in the Caledonian Record based in VT, but also the CBS affiliate in Burlington VT made mention of this on the air this morning. NH's WMUR, where are you? Oh, speaking of WMUR, it seems they may be trying to stem the anti-McKay tide at their forum located here. No updates in 2 days (as of 10:44 AM 5/31). Fair and balanced journalism there.

http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=man&Forum=427&Topic=15873

More hearsay, McKay's bride-to-be also felt the firm hand of the "law".

Anonymous said...

Looks like links don't translate well into column formatting:

http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/
top_news/story/6a77e7104


http://forums.ibsys.com/
viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=man&Forum=427&
Topic=15873

Anonymous said...

Yes, I noticed that myself about the wmur forum. They are going longer and longer between postings.

It is too bad really - they have great guidelines for the posters and it really is a great atmosphere to interact within because people don't get out of control with one another.

WHERE ARE YOU WMUR? We miss your forum.

Christopher King said...

The Recovery Group shows great promise and I wish them well.

As for WMUR I have seen them wait days before updating; I find it interesting that one of the last things they've updated INCORRECTLY claims I was "disbarred," when we all know I was SUSPENDED for a year 5 years ago for conduct that occurred in 1996 when I dealing with the "nigger-lover" case.

Nice.

Anonymous said...

Has it been characteristic of WMUR to hold posts for so long in the past?

The article in the Caledonian Record was worth reading. Thanks.

Christopher King said...

Has it been characteristic of WMUR to hold posts for so long in the past?

I would hope not. The whole point of a forum like that is near-spontaneous interraction -- which we are having right here, uncensored. If it's a staffing issue then they need to hire someone else or re-prioritize, lest the public lose the benefit of the bargain, yo.'

-c

Anonymous said...

They did post that all comments are screened. They don't allow any unsubstantiated information to be posted or insults directed specifically to the person as opposed to the person's comment.

Libel purposes.

Anonymous said...

From one of the recent posts at WMUR:

"King cast,
You being a lawyer(disbarrred) should know you cannot base a conviction on past acts. Floyd was not angel, and had a problem with authorities, but maybe his sense of fair play came out that night when he saw Bruce get runned down and then ran over again.

The comment about driving to a safe place during a traffic stop has been advised for women that are alone. And they need to drive to a safe and public place, not to drive to their home, and from what I hear it was a fortified area much like Drega's compound in Colebrook. Kenney had multiple long guns and plenty of ammunition from what I had heard.

And, going around town saying he was going to kill McKay the next time he was pulled over by him is not the same thing if McKay actually said he was going to get kenney. And "to get" kenney meant to catch him breaking the law. If the speed limit is 40 mph, then 41 mph is breaking the law. I recieved a ticket for doing 7 mph over the speed limit so being pulled over for 5 mph is not so far-fetched."

This post if from a police officer. Maybe Mr King has something to say about "disbarred"? How about the unsubstantiated remark about Kenney saying he was going to Kill McKay? Comparisions to Carl Drega?

Methinks unsubstantiated and libelous are in the eye of the beholder and they don't apply it equally. I'd like to see some updates. Surely not everything posted in the last 48 hrs is against the rules?

Christopher King said...

Hey 8:52: Yeah nice cut and paste.

Too bad my response to that post has not been published yet or you would know that I most certainly am not "DISBARRED" nor have I have been.

Here's a cut and paste to Officer Forrest for you:

"Again, Forrest, if I had lost any of the police cases to which I cite, you would say "what do you know, you've never won a police case."

And you know what else?

In this instance I'm a reporter with legal knowledge.

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-asks-if-abuse-complaints-have.html

You care to take a shot at my reporting credentials, too?

Fact of the matter is I have used my skills to change public policy here in New Hampshire, and have been highly praised for so doing, whether you like it or not.

Get real, and get back to Floyd and McKay's background and the video, which sure as hell would NOT have been produced without requests from the media, including.... me.

You keep promising to leave this blawg.

Go on ahead and do it, then, you big bag of wind."


Bottom line is I have clearly struck a nerve here, and if what I'm saying didn't have any substance none of you would bother to stick around.

Peace.

Anonymous said...

The Boston Globe reported on the Profile School incident, and even interviewed the principal about it. There is no denial that it happened, but I recall very little press about it locally (perhaps because it involved a juvenile, or perhaps because my memory sucks).

The incident is discussed in the final paragraphs of this article:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/14/nh_town_tries_to_comprehend_2_killings/

Anonymous said...

Here is the relevant quote from the article. Interesting what the Principal "didn't" say. Reading between the lines I'd say he's not finding the student's treatment warranted.

A couple of years ago, McKay and another officer were called to Profile High School to serve court papers to a 15-year-old male student. The student, a large teenager with a temper, resisted being taken away by the officers, said the school's principal, Richard Larcom, and the officers subdued the teen with pepper spray.

"I'm not going to say it was right or wrong," Larcom said. "I can tell you it did precipitate some very in-depth reflection."

Christopher King said...

Dear 8:35:

"They did post that all comments are screened. They don't allow any unsubstantiated information to be posted or insults directed specifically to the person as opposed to the person's comment.

Libel purposes."


.....Funny they let slip the comment about me being "disbarred," which is materially different than a one-year suspension for Crissakes, no?

.....We wait 48 hours for that sort of inaccuracy; they could just eliminate the screen if that's the case.

Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter said...

I've been taking pictures, covering news and fighting for justice for 20 years, too.

Michael Moore said...

You need to take this tale to the Daily Kos, ban or no ban. They can ban this.

Christopher King said...

Hey Jimmy:

With all of your experience covering those greater than you, it should be of no sweat for you to get in touch with New Hampshire School Boards' Director Ted Comstock to see where he stands on the pending First Amendment issue he promised to resolve by today:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-says-it-31-may-time-for-nhsba.html

Thanks, you check is in the mail.

********

Daily who? Daily what?

I'll be visiting those nimrods again, soon :)

Here's my last visit:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/03/daily-kos-builds-kingcast-limousine.html

They just hate on me because I diss on Dems as well as Republicans. If you're not doing your job you're fair game, I couldn't care less about party lines, nor could Loretta Heard (RIP):

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/08/ohio-us-congressional-candidate-mary.html

Even NH Superior Court lead Justice Robert Lynn gets into the action!

Christopher King said...

PS Jimmy:

You need to work on your styles 'cos once again you're late to the game.

Director Comstock wrote me to say the policy has been changed.

Don't drop your paper route.

Anonymous said...

Chris,

As I understand it when he used the pepper spray it ended up affecting several students as it got into one of their systems (maybe ducts or something like that). There was quite an upset over it.

Humble Shoe Shine Boy said...

If only there was a licensed attorney to sue, where or where can we find one? We have a reporter, a photographer, a high class waiter, a telecommunications expert, a mechanic, a furniture mover, a musical group manager and producer, a zen buddhist, level 4 tennis player, a motorcycle daredevil, but where is that pesky lawyer? Wherefore art thou? Maybe someone at the Daily Kos or the Daily Planet can help out.

Anonymous said...

Have no fear....it will go far beyond chat forums.

Simon Bar Sinister said...

Dear Humble Shoe Shine Boy,

Unfortunately the licensed attorney seems to have been swallowed up by all of his Walter Mitty alter egos.

"Dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation"

"He could neither function as a professional lawyer in a courtroom nor afford his clients adequate representation."

That's the sad end of the licensed attorney. Exposed for what he really is, just another internet legend in his own mind.

Anonymous said...

How many times do you need to be reminded that this is about the shooting death of two Franconia men?

That would be Liko Kenney and that uuuhhhmm.....what is that guys name? Oh yah, Bruce McKay aka "Officer Pepper" and "Officer McCavity".

This is a free speech forum.

Christopher King said...

Hey 2:25 and 5:52:

I do more without a law license than most lawyers do with one:

Just today, in fact, that legend continues:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-says-it-31-may-time-for-nhsba.html

As follow up to the Nashua Policy change:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/02/kingcast-presents-nashua-telegraph.html

And the fraud, deceit and dishonesty isn't really on me but is more reflected in the fact that the State of Ohio actually said that I said my relationship with Lou Jacobs had failed.

As I showed you, that's sheer and utter bullshit; read the letters that Attorney and tenured law professor Jacobs and noted Cleveland Attorney Terry Gilbert wrote, after such allegedly "failed relationship."

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2005/12/incredible-comments-from-my-jewish.html

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/01/preamble-to-american-lawyer-1.html

What utter bullshit the Court spewed, but you apparently accept it. Wonder what other kind of spew you accept.

***********

Now if you'll excuse me I need to go brush my Zegna 3/4 boots:

Without my license I can't afford to pay others to do that now, and with all the shit people like you put out here, ignoring all of the salient issues to attempt to malign my character, I have to clean them regularly.

Oh, but wait: One of you mentioned Daily Kos, right?

Here's a quote from DK that I thought about while I was watching a new online commercial spot with me in it having more fun than most of you do :)

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-gains-commercial-play-in.html

"Those whose lives are lived 'beneath the radar,' devoid of the mind-blowing shock of outrageous selection for violation of basic human rights, can never understand what it is to undergo an ordeal such as the one that was inflicted upon Christopher King.

When those who have the power invested in them by virtue of being elected, or appointed to, positions of public trust choose to carry out a vendetta against one (such as Christopher King) who demands to be treated with respect and within the confines of the law, but who rubs the institutional feathers the wrong way, it is all too common that those of us who live our lives in comfort choose to turn away, too fat and lazy to come to the aid of a fellow human being who, by the very act of standing up for his own human rights, stands up for us all."

**********

Nope, hardly a legend, just a real guy doing things to help effectuate social change in his community.

Namaste.

Christopher King said...

Now then, back to the point:

Did Bruce McKay smack his wife or not?

Because if he did, he's lost all respect I thought I had for him, and if he did he's a misogynist, and once a man is a misogynist you can't trust him with anyone's safety.

No amount of vitriol anyone throws at me can change THAT.

Peace.

The Ghost of Tom Joad said...

Anonymous

This is about one thing and one thing only. Chris King. Get that straight. You are just a bit player, filling in the necessary "I have it on good authority" lines and rumors. The rest is about CK misusing multisyllabic words in order to impress you that he is a legal tsunami that will not back down. He is great at picking a side and using it as a hook for speaking more about himself, all thw while muddying the waters. A for instance? Look at his own comment to this blog, the first one. Or count the number of "I" statements in posts and comments associated with this issue. Its about him. And don't tell us otherwise.

The Liko story is important, but not here. King is the story. He will wind you up just to get his name out there, and then walk away, like Carl the groundskeeper in CaddyShack after he blows the course up, trying to kill a gopher.


You seem sincere. Look somewhere else for your information, comments and cause. Go to the bank. King is taking facts from the bank teller. This is simply idle chatter while hanging the laundry on the line.

CK, keep on keepin' on. Down with the haters!

Namaste.

Christopher King said...

Hey Tom, was Little Stevie with you when Bruce wrote that song? Funny, he was with me last October at CBGB's as we discussed another bullshit case on the AG's part.

Mine:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/10/kingcast-mourns-passing-of-cbgbs-and.html

*********

Frankly, maybe you are using some 3rd or 4th hand information yourself, because as you can see I've never backed away from any battles in New England:

1. Fact: Did not run or cop a plea in the Bogus Indictment from Chief Dunn. Kicked his ever-loving ass and he is fired, and his prosecutor out on ethics charges.

2. Fact: Did not run from NH AG Kelly Ayotte and she dismissed her Unlicensed Practice of Law case.

3. Fact: Did not run from the Nashua School Board First Amendment issue with Julia Earl, got the policy changed and positive feedback from board members, the mayor, the city attorney

4. Fact: Did not run from the same issue with the New Hampshire School Boards' Association and they changed their policy in the timeframe in which the director promised.

5. Fact: Did not run from American Tower corporation, got a finding against them with the Department of Labor for $300K for overtime fines (err "settlement").

6. Fact: I'm still waiting on a return phone call from Franconia Notch police on Officer McKay's personnel file. Whazzupwiddat?

7. Fact: I am not running from this situation but rather accepting the invite of people in Franconia to visit because I have sponsored an open forum, which allows even assholes like you to come in and comment without fear that I will remove or not post things -- unlike WMUR, I might add:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-asks-precisely-why-wmur-failed.html

People in the community did not pay for KingCast because I ran from the community.

Namaste.

PS: You seem to be one of the rubber-stampers noted in the post entitled, "There was none of this over Briggs....."

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-quote-of-day-on-franconia.html

....whose discourse does nothing to advance the cause of Truth, meanwhile as other responsible members of this discussion as the questions that truly matter, questions that the State has thus far failed to answer.

Christopher King said...

Oh, yeah:

Go to the bank. King is taking facts from the bank teller. This is simply idle chatter while hanging the laundry on the line.

.....If you're too stupid to see that I noted an observation from the bank teller, as opposed to taking facts from her, I'm the fool for taking time to even respond to you. You got me this time.

Here's the passage, from the 30 May 2007 post showing the AG's reponse letter and the indication that the video will be produces some time in June, apparently:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-receives-letter-from-nh-aag.html

*********

"What? They want 14 days to review your request but it only took them 2 to close the criminal investigation?"

I rocked back on my skates and just looked at her, blankly. Funny how non-lawyers can cut to the chase quicker than we can sometimes. I love it.

*********

Hers is quite an appropriate observation in this circumstance, whether you like it or not.

Namaste.

Al Michaels said...

King being pummeled in the corner fights back . . . .

Christopher King said...

And my left jab, not to mention my right hook, is a lot stronger than Mrs. McKay's.....

Anonymous said...

Speaking of PUMMELLED......McKay pummelled his wife.

Anonymous said...

You guys are obsessed with Chris....you can't stop talking about him and apparently just can't get enough of him.

Are you full yet?

Christopher King said...

Dear 8:48

My life is quite the conundrum:

It takes a freewheeling spirit like me to even bother with these types of issues, but in so doing of course I become the focal point (but only for disingenous people, for the most part) instead of the issue.

We saw them do it in the Willie Toney police case and no one ever questioned whether the young man's Civil Rights were violated when he took those 3 police guns to the face and a visual body cavity search for.....ummmm...... loitering, which he beat. Without a lawyer.

Anyway, to those of you new to this blawg, of course I'm a jester.... a task made rather easy by the state of America's Justice and legal system, sadly.

Remember the movie "Life is Beautiful" Well marry that with "Twin Peaks" and there you have my life, with a little dancing, music and sports thrown in.

But it's always about the Civil Rights.

Anonymous said...

King brags "I do more without a law license than most lawyers do with one"!

Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!

But apparently not able to comply with the terms of his probation when his license to practice law was suspended because of "Dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation."

Maybe he's fooled some of you fools, maybe he's even fooled himself. Anybody with any sense can see the truth though.

Christopher King said...

Hey Anonymous fool at 12:48:

Okay so let's assume arguendo that I was the worst lawyer in the World, and that I agreed that my mentorship and friendship with tenured law professor Lou Jacobs had "failed," even though I clearly never said that because it didn't, as Lou's recommendation letter (and the one from one of Cleveland's best attorneys, Terry Gilbert) for me attests:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2005/12/incredible-comments-from-my-jewish.html

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/01/preamble-to-american-lawyer-1.html

***********

That would have zero to do with what I have been able to achieve in New England without a license ten years later while people like you ignore the substantive issues I raise:

I've never backed away from any battles in New England:

1. Fact: Did not run or cop a plea in the Bogus Indictment from Chief Dunn. Kicked his ever-loving ass and he is fired, and his prosecutor out on ethics charges.

2. Fact: Did not run from NH AG Kelly Ayotte and she dismissed her Unlicensed Practice of Law case.

3. Fact: Did not run from the Nashua School Board First Amendment issue with Julia Earl, got the policy changed and positive feedback from board members, the mayor, the city attorney

4. Fact: Did not run from the same issue with the New Hampshire School Boards' Association and they changed their policy in the timeframe in which the director promised.

5. Fact: Did not run from American Tower corporation, got a finding against them with the Department of Labor for $300K for overtime fines (err "settlement").

6. Fact: I'm still waiting on a return phone call from Franconia Notch police on Officer McKay's personnel file. Whazzupwiddat?

7. Fact: I am not running from this situation but instead accepting the invite of people in Franconia to visit because I have sponsored an open forum, which allows even assholes like you to come in and comment without fear that I will remove or not post things -- unlike WMUR, I might add:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/05/kingcast-asks-precisely-why-wmur-failed.html

People in the community did not pay for KingCast because I ran from the community.

Namaste.

PS: You seem to be one of the rubber-stampers noted in the post entitled, "There was none of this over Briggs....."

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2007/06/kingcast-quote-of-day-on-franconia.html

....whose discourse does nothing to advance the cause of Truth, meanwhile as other responsible members of this discussion ask the questions that truly matter, questions that the State has thus far failed to answer.

*********

Try again. The door prizes are to your left and I'm headed out the door to Franconia.

No Foolin'

Namaste.

P. Swayze said...

Using the term 'arguendo' is so legit. Anonymous 12:48 is clearly out of his depth. And for the record, when you go to California, you are not running from anything. Nobody puts Chrissy in the corner.

Anonymous said...

All the strange names on hear sound like they are the same person.

Scitzo?

Maybe meds would help.

Be safe.

peace to you.

Christopher King said...

Amazing to read this post a year later after most of the Right-to-Know litigation has been completed and see that I was right, as noted by the update.